Now before you go crazy on me, hear me out. I think shortening the shot clock to about 16 would be a great idea, because I'm sick of teams just standing around w/ the basketball until only 5 seconds or so are left, and then doing a one on one move, leading to a very low percentage shot which does not go in, and then a foul call. It's just boring basketball. Die-hard b'ball fans, like the ones that read websites like this may not have a problem with it, but you can't deny that the dropping popularity of basketball doesn't have anything to do w/ the slowed down tempo, and numerous stops of games today. I'm sick of people saying its just good defence, its not! Are you tryin to tell me that in the bird-magic days nobody played defence? Gimme a break!! I think by limiting the shot clock to 16 or less, it will force teams to run and be active instead of just standing around, and it will force players to become better shooters. If I wanted to watch a game where nothing happens for a very long time, I'd watch soccer or football. Also another rule change I would like to see is the elimination of charges. I know you must be in uproar right now, thinking how insane I am, but again, hear me out. Think about it, why should there be such a thing as a charge. It's just WRONG basketball. I mean, if you're dending someone, DEFEND them, don't just step in their way and pretty much ask the referee to bail you out for not being able to defend their offence! That is not defence!! Run with them and try to steal the ball, or alter their shot, but stepping in for a charge completely goes against the objective of playing basketball, playing a sport. An offensive player should be allowed to move wherever they want! It should be up to the defensive player to keep up with them and try their best to alter the shot. However, I know I said that offensive fouls should be eliminated, but I only mean in that case. When it is obvious that an offensive player throws an elbow or something at a defensive player to get him out of the way, then there should obviously be an offensive foul call. I'm sure most if not all people will disagree with both of the points I've made above, but I hope you really really think hard about it. And I believe if you truly are able to open your minds and defy convention for the sake of convention, you will see how much better this game can be.
24 isn't actually much to run a whole play. They bring the ball up in probably 6 seconds and then they have to run the play through.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SP23:</div><div class="quote_post">24 isn't actually much to run a whole play. They bring the ball up in probably 6 seconds and then they have to run the play through.</div> You would think that 24 seconds isn't a lot of time, but lets say you're right, and they take 6 of the 8 seconds to bring it up halfcourt. But that leaves 18 seconds, and if your'e being honest, you know that most teams don't do anything until the last 6 seconds or so. So that leaves 12 seconds of just standing around dribbling.
Sometimes it's true. But, for teams that actually like to run their plays in a half court offense. They have to get their screens and everything set. Then if the option isn't option they have to go to a different one.
If the shot clock was set at 16, the total timeouts in the game would double, or maybe triple hence meaning the game actually goes slower. It takes around 4-5 seconds to dribble up to the court so that gives them around 10 seconds to make a play. I don't think we'll witness sweet plays and the game would rely on lights out shooters, who would dominate more than anyone before.
The elimination of charges is ridiculous. I'm sorry, but taking out that aspect of the game is just insane. You'll be seeing a lot of players on the offensive end just dribbling the ball into defenders, no wait, bum rushing them. It would cease to be professional basketball. If the elimination was actually made, a play like this would probably occur- 1. Wade gets the basketball in the backcourt 2. He subsequently dribbles at full speed to the other end towards Billups, who is on the three point line at the other end 3. Wade drives right into Billups, ending up with either Billups getting injured, Wade being injured, Wade getting through to end up with an easy layup, or Billups avoiding him entirely as to not get bum rushed. So you can probably see the problem that will occur if that change is made. Every player will probably sprint from one end to the other giving the defense just one option- get out of the friggin way. Thats not good basketball.
Exactly, the charge is the necessary counterweight to the defensive foul. If you get rid of one, the other would have to go, and then you don't have basketball anymore. Just getting rid of one, gives an unnecessary advantage to the offense and unfairly punishes defenders who are quicker than their opponent.
No offensive fouls = street ball. This is the pros man, taking away this foul sould cause immediate frustration and injuries. Imagine all the fights it would cause, this ain't hockey man. Shoot if somone came and just dilebertly ran me over, and no call, i;d know i'd wanna hit someone.
Alright, points taken. So lets modify this a little. What my main gripe is that defensive players should NOT be able to step out in front of an already running player just to draw an offensive foul. That is in no way conductive to the game. They should run with the player and try to play regular defence like altering or blocking their shot. If the offensive player as you said AznxBaller, just runs into a defensive player like that, then yes there should be an offensive foul, for it is the responsibilty of the offensive player as an offensive player to weave through the defence. I don't like it when teams do things to get bailed out by the referees. Such as stepping in to draw offensive fouls, and just taking the ball in the lane to get a defensive foul. If you're an offensive player no matter what you should just be trying to get the ball in the hoop, not running into a defensive player to get freethrows. If you're a defensive player you should just be trying to alter and change the shot of the offence, and not just stepping in front to get bailed out by the referees.
Sounds like you want to the NBA to do something about defensive players flopping. I also hate the frequency players overreact from slight contact to draw the whistle from the official in the current NBA. Most of the times the officials are out of position to see exactly what happened, and just react to the player falling over. They assume he was shoved with force. I preferred it better when the officials let that type of contact go without any call. It was a just no-call and the players continued on playing. I disagree with you about the shot clock being shortened. 24 seconds is about right, because it gives teams time to bring the ball up and run their plays. If you cut it to just 16 seconds teams would trap all the time and force the offense to take low percentage shots. The scoring would actually decrease because the new rule would benefit the defense a lot more than offense.
I'd be totally for shortening the shot clock, but 16 is too short. I think 20 seconds would be much better.
teams spend like 6 seconds getting the ball past the half court line. so thats 18 so they really have around 18 or 19.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ksc6000:</div><div class="quote_post">Now before you go crazy on me, hear me out. I think shortening the shot clock to about 16 would be a great idea, because I'm sick of teams just standing around w/ the basketball until only 5 seconds or so are left, and then doing a one on one move, leading to a very low percentage shot which does not go in, and then a foul call. </div> Dude, it will happen everyplay with only 10 seconds to operate a play! Considering that it take 6 seconds to get cross half court, another 3 or 4 to get 1 or 2 passes in, then you have to go one on one. It would eliminate the concept of a team game man. You'd see more things like what the Lakers do, get ball to Kobe and start running back up the floor and let him go 1 on 5. It's stupid you even brought this stuff up, and offensive fouls eliminated! So it would be ok to completely push the guy off you to get open for run over him to get an uncontested dunk? Go back to the den you came from, because I haven't even seen you post until today
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting J_Ray:</div><div class="quote_post"> So it would be ok to completely push the guy off you to get open for run over him to get an uncontested dunk? Go back to the den you came from, because I haven't even seen you post until today </div> Do everybody a favor and read the whole thread before replying you jackass.
