OT Should females compete against biological males?

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  1. stampedehero

    stampedehero Make Your Day, a Doobies Day Staff Member

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    Any way someone dices this up, the female brain is completely different than males under emotional situations, conversation, cognitive deduction, intuition, and most of all raising children. For a trans role in sports, I agree with Riv that testosterone places males into strength advantage. I had seen woman body builders and that is something I can't get used to at all.
     
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    All people's brains are different. Seems weird to lump it as male versus female.
    And I don't think anyone needs you to get used to female bodybuilders. Unsure of the point you're trying to make.
     
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    I am close to your age. I'll be 68 in March. My wife of 44 years says that women are completely and utterly different. I know, as her guilt trip tossed on me after a disagreement always works to her advantage.
     
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    Is the 7 foot muscle bound person in the same weight class as the female boxer? Seems like a stretch to take an extreme physical freak as a reason Trans can't compete.
    Put the 7 foot muscle bound person in against a much smaller male and there is a disadvantage also.
     
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    This thread confuses me.
     
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    how can we help?
     
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    The world we now live in has become a minefield of extremes. Too many people are pushing the bounderies of their rights, without wanting bounderies placed on their responsibilities.

    An example.

    I support the right/freedom of all people of legal age to drink alcohol, if they choose to. If I was "all in" on that right, I would support their right to be drunk all of the time including when a pilot flys a commercial passanger airplane when drunk. That would be irresponsible both on the pilots part, and my part for supporting them.

    My point is, too many special interest groups with agendas are going too far with their rights agendas, while refusing any responsibility for their actions. This includes many special interest agendas including the one in the op.

    I support trans gender rights, within responsible limits. But I refuse to be bullied into supporting irresponsible behavior. Anyone that tries to bully another into supporting irresponsible behavior has gone too far, and has a very weak case.
     
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    From my perspective, as a man married for decades, women approach, respond and solve situations differently than men. It's not lumping; it's hormones vs testosterone. No one; needs me; to get used to female body builders. Female bodybuilders are not natural or look acceptable in my book. It' MY opinion.
     
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    No bodybuilder looks "natural". Just seems like an odd opinion to insert into the discussion.
     
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    Why is chopping off your balls legal, but LSD is illegal?

    Well I'm not dumb but I can't understand. It's a mixed up muddled up shook up world.
     
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    Where is the irresponsible part of supporting Trans rights?
     
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    These are my opinions, not yours. That is simple to understand. Don't put an "odd opinion" label on me. I'll go no further with this.
     
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    My point is there's no real relevance to the thread.

    Sweet pickles are an abomination and should be disallowed. Don't try to change my mind. They're gross.
     
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    It IS irresponsible for biological males to compete with females in all sports.

    A boundry line needs to be established as to which sports everyone can safely and fairly compete.
     
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    There are plenty of athletes that beyond sexual identity change their body types to win at sports...sometimes to make a different weight class as in boxing or wrestling....extreme example..if the second best boxer in the world knew he could switch genders to win a world championship....would they do that for the paycheck or to go down in history as a champ....let's say it's a guy like a young Tyson....should he be allowed to fight the female world champ for a belt? Maybe I'm jost old fashioned but it's different in contact sports than it was for the jazz drummer who was transgendered in the 50s ....dance, arts, many fields I think can cross gender lines....my point is boxing is not one of those ..what if that person changed back to male after winning a championship and just taking estrogen treatments for a stretch before deciding it was a mistake...although in this case a profitable one.
     
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    A few years ago in the Philippines, an American soldier or Marine was in a bar, was seduced by a cute Filipino woman, and when her pants came down, she was a man. Feeling used and abused, he killed her in a shocked rage, and is in prison for murder.

    A long time ago, the definition of the word "rape" was extended to voluntary sex between a 17-year-old girl and an 18-year-old boy. Should the rape definition now be extended to include a transsexual person deceiving someone into sex?
     
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    What a quaint S2 post.
     
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    Personally, I'd rather just see a woman...who was born a woman.....kick a field goal.
     
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    Thread title asks: Should females compete against biological males?

    I have no problem with this. And the question as stated in the title has nothing to do with transgender concerns. If a woman wants to compete against a man no one should have a problem with it.

    Now, if the OP really wants to know if someone who was originally a male and is now a transgender female should they be allowed to compete in female only sporting events that is a completely different question. Is it fair? That's a good question. Is it a problem? Now that is the real question. What problems have we seen arise from this? Have colleges stopped giving scholarships to females in favor of transgender athletes only? Have colleges or professional women's teams actively encouraged or paid for male athletes to transgender to female? Is this really a problem or is this just some icky what if against transgenderism? I remember hearing that if we allow transgendered into public bathrooms they were going to start raping kids.
     
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    WNBA'S LAYSHIA CLARENDON UNDERGOES BREAST REMOVAL SURGERY
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    WNBA star Layshia Clarendon has undergone successful surgery to have her breasts removed -- and is now going public about it in hopes of inspiring other trans athletes.

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