Should we be worried? (Re: Radiation fallout)

Here's an example of what could be carried over directly from Japan with the jet stream:


[video=youtube;fO6-96Pyi0o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO6-96Pyi0o[/video]

 

Yes, when you have an ex-military guy laughing about how easy it was for them to lie to the citizens rather than be honest with them about the threat, we should be worried. Seems to be the same game plan now.

The fact is just as it was back then, there's nothing the government/military can do to prevent radiation from getting here. All they can do is try to divert our attention, lie about the threat, and later deny the evidence of harm. Or they could be honest, help us with mitigating defense measures, prepare for the casualties.

 

Here's a new article about risks. It contains a mixed bag of warnings and reassurances.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-03-16-00-21-34

 

That is exactly what I was thinking when I watched this. What else are they lying to us about?

 

I like the way this short Time article sorts events by reactor number.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/03/16/reactor-redux-whats-happening-at-fukushima-daiichi/

 

I posted this in the other thread. I've updated the link to the latest monitoring results

LINK to TEPCO's radiation readings.

1st column - date(m/d)
2nd column - time (h/m)
3rd column - reading location (various locations near the reactor. Most recent ones are taken at the main gate.)
4th column - radiation level (uSV/h, A CT scan is about 6,900 uSv)
5th column - neutron line? (I don't know how to translate this)
6th column - wind direction (南 = south　東 = east　西 = west　北 = north)
7th column - wind speed

You can see a big spike at 12:30 in the morning (10,850 uSv/h)

 

No.

 

You mean worried about our selfish selves? The answer is no, that radiation will cross the Pacific to us.

The answer is yes, that this and the tidal wave will cost Japan over a hundred billion dollars, set its already-troubled economy back a couple of years, knock down the worldwide stock market, and thus make it more probable that our own current recession is permanent.

The US stock market has sunk every day this week, and Japan is given as the cause.

Bluefrog, I'm trying to read your link, but not successfully.

 

No.

There is an unlikely scenario where everything goes (further) wrong (from your perspective) and radioactive particles that could be damaging to long-term health, but not a threat to your immediate survival, are deposited in you area.

What is required? (1)Full reactor meltdown; (2)that happens just so, so that it results in a large explosion, (3)with radioactive material shot very high up the air, (4) so that some material is caught in the jetstream, (5) and at that moment the jetstream happens to be pointed right in your direction, (6) and dispersal is minimized due to a certain type of focused air current, and (7) when it arrives over your head - it rains, thus delivering to you the gift of maximum radioactive material, as, of course, (8) you are standing outside, in the nude.

You would know all of this was happening, if it were to start happening, so it would be your choice to stay as safe as possible if you wanted to.

 

You didn't address the economic effects, which I had just done.

Your answer is like saying, would the U.S. fighting a war in Libya affect the U.S.? No, because how would the Libyan army get here from across the ocean? You'd have to be standing nude outside right under an attacking airplane.

 

1-5 have already occurred, and 6-8 are silly concoctions of your state of denial.

The radiation will reach us. That much is certain. The jet stream brings everything to us eventually. It spreads out across most of N. America and completely blankets the US.

Any 7th grade Earth Science class will show you the proof of that.

NY cows had a measurable increase in radioactive iodine in them from Chernobyl, but our government concealed that fact for over a decade to protect the dairy industry at the cost of citizens' health.

Our own nation's nuke tests in the 50's and 60's exposed every American on every inch of American soil to radiation. The estimates for a national average of exposure is 2-10 rads, but states to the north and west of Nevada received considerably higher doses. Thyroid cancer incidence has nearly doubled since 1947.

This article really puts radiation effects in a simple perspective, with no distortions, diversions, or deceptions.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/15/us-japan-quake-radiation-idUSTRE72E14R20110315

The various radioactive pollutants from nuclear energy around the world are likely responsible for the bulk of the alarming increase in cancers since WWll.

 

Should work now

 

Interesting link -- thanks! Small corrections:

4th column - Gamma rays in nano-gray per hour (but you're right -- it switches to micro-Sieverts later! Odd...)
5th column - Neutron radiation in micro-sieverts per hour

 

From my understanding, the plants didn't release radioactive material into the air via explosion, but the cores were vented intentionally following the disaster in order to release pressure. According to the Japanese, the ventilations didn't release enough radiation to be dangerous.

I've heard that the plants are completely different from the Chernobyl plant and that a large scale radiation scattering explosion is not at all likely. What is much more likely to happen is that there is a meltdown and the radiation seeps into the earth.

 

...not to mention all of the toxic chemicals the FDA purposely approves as "safe" for human consumption, contaminated vaccines, lethal pharmaceuticals, and so on

 

Thanks for the corrections. Are you in the nuclear energy industry?

Here are the latest readings: LINK