SLAMonline's Top 50 NBA Players Today

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  1. KingSpeed

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    http://slamonline.com/online/categor...online-top-50/

    Everyday, they're writing a profile on each player as they announce their rank.

    Here are the rankings so far:

    1. Kobe Bryant
    2. LeBron James
    3. Tim Duncan
    4. Kevin Garnett
    5. Chris Paul
    6. Steve Nash
    7. Paul Pierce
    8. Dwyane Wade
    9. Amare Stoudemire
    10. Dwight Howard
    11. Deron Williams
    12. Dirk Nowitzki
    13. Carmelo Anthony
    14. Manu Ginobili
    15. Yao Ming
    16. Baron Davis
    17. Gilbert Arenas
    18. Allen Iverson
    19. Carlos Boozer
    20. Tracy McGrady
    21. Tony Parker
    22. Chris Bosh
    23. Shawn Marion
    24. Caron Butler
    25. Chauncey Billups
    26. Joe Johnson
    27. Elton Brand
    28. Brandon Roy
    29. Antawn Jamison
    30. Jason Kidd
    31. Pau Gasol
    32. Andre Iguodala
    33. Al Jefferson
    34. Rasheed Wallace
    35. Ray Allen
    36. Vince Carter
    37: Josh Howard
    38. Shaquille O'Neal
    39. Lamar Odom
    40. Richard Hamilton
    41. Ron Artest
    42. Jermaine O'Neal
    43. Michael Redd
    44. David West
    45. Tayshaun Prince
    46. Monta Ellis
    47. Josh Smith
    48. Marcus Camby
    49. Kevin Martin
    50. Kevin Durant

    I'll update this as the list continues. Will Oden make it? Probably not but you never know....

    Hey- at this point, does anyone want to start guessing who will make the Top 10? I'll start, in no particular order:

    LeBron James
    Chris Paul
    Kobe Bryant
    Kevin Garnett
    Tim Duncan
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Amare Stoudamire
    Dwight Howard
    Steve Nash
    Paul Pierce

    Anyone care to take a guess? I might be leaving Dwyane Wade out. Let me know what you think.
     
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    good shit right here.

     
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    nice! ive been checkin out the old thread on bbf for the updates, but i always feel filthy going there now... and now i dont have too!
     
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    First 9 spots, In no order:
    LeBron James
    Chris Paul
    Kobe Bryant
    Kevin Garnett
    Tim Duncan
    Dirk Nowitzki
    Amare Stoudamire
    Dwight Howard
    Yao Ming


    last spot: not sure, Tracy McGrady, Steve Nash, Paul Pierce or a healthy D-Wade.
     
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    Wow, cool. So we agree on 8 of them. And maybe 10. Anyone else?
     
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    lebron
    kobe
    duncan
    cp3
    garnett
    dirk
    dwight
    dwade
    yao
    mcgrady
     
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    Top 10, no order:

    Chris Paul
    LeBron James
    Dwyane Wade
    Kobe Bryant
    Tim Duncan
    Kevin Garnett
    Tracy McGrady
    Amare Stoudemire
    Yao Ming
    Dirk Nowitzki

    Toughest to leave out was Dwight Howard. I think he's on the cusp and will definitely make it soon, probably this season.
     
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    meh, take amare outta there and put in nash if anything.... back to back league MVP honors c'mon now...

    kobe/bron/kg/wade/cp3/dirk/timmy/nash/dwight/yao
     
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    While I did include Nash, please remember that the list is about who is the best right NOW. Is Nash still the player he was when he was MVP?
     
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    Chauncey Billups at 25. That makes 4 Pistons on the list, probably the most from any one team.
     
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    Lakers probably should have 4 on the list too with Kobe, Odom, Pau, and Bynum.
     
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    I guess all those conference finals weren't by chance, huh?

    Also all four of them are outside of the top 24, which might indicate why they're less successful in big series, when the best players seem to drag their teams to victory...

    Ed O.
     
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    Not to be a broken record (all Bynum, all the time) but there's no way that Bynum is one of the best 50 players in the NBA right now IMO.

    Ed O.
     
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    If he is healthy, I'd consider him a top 5 center. I mean the guy was efficient shooting 64%, 13 ppg, 10 boards in 29 mpg, 2.1 bpg.

    Yao and Dwight are ahead of him right now,

    Others:
    Oden is a possibility. Maybe Kaman (because of mpg), maybe Tyson Chandler (but I would say Bynum > Chandler because Bynum is a better scorer down low)
     
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    Right now, I'd take Yao, Howard, Kaman, Bogut, Jefferson and Biedrins ahead of him. If you count Stoudemire, he's ahead also. I won't count Oden since he hasn't played yet.

    There's no way Bynum has already played like a top-50 player, IMO.

    In the future, he will be. For long-term value, I'd only place Oden, Yao and Howard ahead of him (and Stoudemire, if you count him).
     
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    1-3, Yao, Howard and Kaman. Fine I'll say that makes sense.

    4-6: Here is their stats adjusted for per 35 minutes per game.
    Bynum: ---64% FG%, 15.9 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 2.6 bpg, 2.1 apg
    Jefferson: 50% FG%, 20.7 ppg, 10.9 rpg, 1.5 bpg, 1.4 apg
    Bogut: ----51% FG%, 14.3 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.7 bpg, 2.6 apg
    Biedrins:--63% FG%, 13.5 ppg,, 12.6 rpg,, 1.5 bpg, 1.3 apg

    I think statisically it can be seen that Bynum beats Biedrins in these 5 main categories category. Bynum beats Bogut statistically in everything but slightly in ppg, and 1 apg. However I would much rather have my center averaging 64% FG% over 51% FG% than 3.2 apg vs. 2.2 apg. I mean statistically Bogut isn`t that far off, however head to head matchup I`d take probably Bynum.

    Bynum is the biggest center of the 4, he is the best post defender of the 4, best shot blocker. If I had to choose one of these guys to play center on my team I'd take Bynum assuming his knee is healthy.

    If I could play Jefferson at PF, where I think he is better suited I would consider taking him over Bynum.

    7 I don't consider Amare a center at all anymore, since he has always been a PF (as he has always said), and now that he has Shaq he will start at PF.
     
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    But I don't think you can simply extend Bogut's numbers out to 35 minutes. Part of his efficiency is likely fueled by the fact that he only played a limited number of minutes and took a limited number of shots. I think with more of both, he'd record fewer rebounds per minute (so, under the 13.1 RPG you project in 35 minutes) and shoot at a lower percentage.

    His counting stats would clearly go up with more minutes, but I'd be pretty surprised if it were a straight linear increase.
     
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    Did you mean Bynum's numbers btw?

    Well even with Bogut playing 35 mpg and Bynum playing 29. Bynum does average 13 ppg to Bogut's 14 ppg. However Bynum shot 64% compared to 51%, as well as having more rpg and bpg in less time.
     
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    Yup, oops.

    That's true. Forget Bogut. I actually thought he was more productive than he was.
     
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    I don't think he beats him in rebounds and FG% is hardly a win.

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