(Slightly OT): If Oden signs for minimum w/Heat...

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  1. BrianFromWA

    BrianFromWA Editor in Chief Staff Member Editor in Chief

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    Chris Broussard says "it's a wrap!."
    While I semi-agree...I'm thinking that's a lot like saying "If Portland traded Roy for Durant, Oden played 40mpg every game, and we got NOH to trade CP3 for Miller, it's all over!"

    I also have my eye on the Medal of Honor and a winning lotto ticket, but since I'm neither in a combat zone or buying tickets, it doesn't really help me much.
     
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    I'd trade Oden for D-Wade.
     
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    if Greg signs for the minimum, he's a bigger idiot then Qyntel Woods.

    Take the money now, try for a title later. 15-25 million in the bank is a LOT of sav.
     
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    I wonder if Broussard or the Heat understand that Greg is not an unrestricted FA?
     
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    Doubt it. I certainly hope Greg signs a minimum salary offer sheet with the Heat.
     
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    I don't see any mention in his article anywhere about him signing for the minimum. Furthermore, I don't really get what you're mocking Brian? He's correct, but that's mainly because I think it's nearly a wrap for the Heat without Oden too; they don't need much more than what they have.
     
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    Who's mocking Brian?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I guess I'm mostly referring to Brian's semi mocking "tone" with this statement: "If Portland traded Roy for Durant, Oden played 40mpg every game, and we got NOH to trade CP3 for Miller, it's all over!" As if the Heat signing Greg to an offer sheet too rich for Portland's blood is somehow ridiculous. I suspect the Blazers would match an MLE type of offer sheet, but you never know.
     
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    I find it horribly laughable to think that anything that would qualify as "low-priced" to Micky Arison would be "too rich" for Paul Allen. Bucher was the one who put the "minimum contract" thing in there. The most MIA can offer is the MLE (if there still is an MLE, which isn't a given), unless they're using one of their Big 3 in an S&T (which may not be allowed, either).

    And I meant it in a "duh" way. Yes, if Greg is healthy enough to, as Broussard says, "stay healthy and give them 8 and 8 a game", then adding him to the Heat would make them about unstoppable. I have no problems with that statement, other than if Greg is healthy he's getting more than 8 rebounds a game in that system...but I digress. It's the attitude of "if the Heat pry Oden away with a low offer, and he stays healthy, it's over" that made me mock it by using the Roy-for-Durant, CP3-for-Miller thing, because in my mind there's exactly the same chance of either happening.
     
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    Mike Bibby walked away from 6 million dollars this year for a chance to win a title ... granted Oden and Bibby's circumstances are different, but I don't know if it's all that crazy to think that Oden might take slightly less money to go someplace like Miami where he can be the 4th best player, play fewer minutes, be a role-player and see the sun shine 11 months out of the year.
     
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    Frankly, I don't see anything in Broussard's post that doesn't deserve to be mocked. In fact, I'd mock anybody who thinks that Oden is going to be a low-priced get this summer or that the Blazers wouldn't match any low-priced offer. What's the Internet for if not for mocking mockable statements?
     
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    Careful, Nic. You're closing in on mockable territory. Oden will not be a UFA unless the Blazers choose to allow him to be...and they won't.
     
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    but it's not his choice to accept a low-ball offer. If he does, say, accept a 2-yr BAE to go "ring-chasing", the Blazers can take whatever deal he signs as their own, and he can wait another couple of years to go ring-chasing.

    If you were talking about summer of 2012, then what you (and Broussard) are talking about is an option. Today? Not a bloody chance in hell.
     
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    He's UFA if the Blazers decide to wash their hands of him or don't want to pay him the QO amount or higher.
     
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    That would be dumb, even for our front office
     
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    Even Minnesota's front office wouldn't do that...

    ...they'd amputate him at the knees to make him a sub-6'0" point guard though.
     
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    It's not dumb. #1 picks require ~$7M just for the QO. At what point do you say you've spent enough and aren't likely to get value for the money spent?
     
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    at the point you can no longer get value. I don't think Oden's anywhere close to that point.
     
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    It is very very stupid when you have a #1 pick that has an injury history but has shown a lot of potential and you have no cap space to begin with. There is no reason to not offer him the 8.8m QO when it doesn't effect our non existent cap. A healthy Oden makes us a great team and there is no player we can get that is anywhere near the potential of Oden.
     
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    I also think that there's nearly zero chance that Oden won't get better multi-year offers from other teams, the Blazers, or most likely both, that will far exceed the QO amount. I know PapaG disagrees with this, but I think the odds are really remote that Oden would reject those multi-year deals just so that he can play one year on the QO contract and become an UFA the following summer.
     
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