Smith interested in long-term deal with Denver

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    <span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">Smith Interested In Long-Term Deal With Denver</span>[​IMG]J.R. Smith is eligible to sign a long-term contract extension during the offseason, a prospect that interests him."That's something I'd like to do, but I'm not forcing the issue," he said.Smith "definitely" wants to remain with the Nuggets.Coach George Karl said the team likes Smith as a long-term piece despite a few growing pains."For me right now, my pendulum would be, yeah," Karl said. "It's a business thing. . . . I wouldn't say that we'd say that's not a possibility; (he eventually will develop how the Nuggets want)."-RealGMThis is some good news, Smith is gonna play a nice x-factor role whenever Iverson or Carmelo cannot make a play happen Smith is gonna need to step up and make something happen. But then again, they made that deal for Blake and he has gotten the start over Smith at the guard. Still very important off the bench.
     
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    The dude lost the game yesterday last 40 or so 2nd's he took every shot when we still had a chance. I mean who in the right mind will let JR take another shot after missing one in the last minute. And WTF is the coach doing letting this guy take shot's over AI/Melo AI hit a few big shots in game 2 to bring them from 15-17 down to like 3 why not let him take. I will rather have AI/Melo take it on a bad shooting night were they shoot 30% for example then JR who might be 5-5 that night in the last minute when you need a win I still can't get over this stupid coaching by Karl last minute of last nights game.I think we should send JR + First Round + some package for something good.Maybe even with Camby if we trading him anyway Pau on the block I am sure, and even KG. And there is also JO who knows you can try atleast. But for one of those 3 you probably have to give Nene with JR + First Camby is getting old.I think it is possible to get Pau/JO KG be hard though probably can't get KG.I would give him a contract, but not huge that you won't be able to trade later on.
     
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    He is a big part of their offense because he is capable of getting hot and stretching the defense by knocking down the three. The problem for them right now is that he has been struggling in the postseason.Denver has some salary issues to tend to... they have a lot of money tied up into Iverson, Anthony, Nene, Camby and Martin (their starting line-up when everybody is healthy, basically). They could sign JR Smith to a long term deal, but they can't spend too much money because that will further hurt their cap number. There are already rumblings of Denver possibly moving Camby this summer because of their cap/luxury tax number.They could just wait another season, then let Iverson opt-out and sign for cheaper, which I think he'd be willing to do. It would help, but not much.
     
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    Keep Smith, Melo, Nenelook to get a young point guard and new defensive center, look to the future and everything will go right for denver, am I right? YES I am, pretty simple.
     
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    Serge don't judge him just by that. He is a great spark who hasn't been having a good series. Well you probably wouldn't know that. I am not mad Karl told him to take that shot when we had a chance, he is capable of doing it and would be open since AI and 'Melo draw all the attention. No way we should trade him, this was easily his best season and he will only get better. I am glad he wants to sign a long term deal and I hope we do.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ May 1 2007, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Serge don't judge him just by that. He is a great spark who hasn't been having a good series. Well you probably wouldn't know that. I am not mad Karl told him to take that shot when we had a chance, he is capable of doing it and would be open since AI and 'Melo draw all the attention. No way we should trade him, this was easily his best season and he will only get better. I am glad he wants to sign a long term deal and I hope we do.</div>Umm I know that why would I not, but he does not know when to chill out he needs a brain scan I think or something. I mean when it is not going and your way of or a coach has a play for someone else unless you really have a great open shot don't just do your own thing I mean pathetic. I like JR was the one saying he should have been starting at SG and move AI to PG instead of starting Blake. I am just tired of the stupid stuff he does that are simple.And if you read the article about Smith getting bench on espn or w/e you see Karl said he had no clue were that shot came from when they were down 4 with like 40 seconds left. He said he made a play for either AI/Melo to take a shot. Not I understand if AI drived inside, and passed to the corner for a OPEN JR Smith shot, but I mean when your coach tells you a play, and you just ignore it and do your own thing shows why I am mad.And I am not saying trade him just to trade him, but if we could get JO, Pau, or KG in a deal were you send Smith +++ packing anyone would do it in a heart beat.
     
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    JR is a young and imature player in this moment. But his talent is huge. I think in a few years JR can be a very important player for Denver.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReaL23 @ May 2 2007, 06:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>JR is a young and imature player in this moment. But his talent is huge. I think in a few years JR can be a very important player for Denver.</div>Yeah in a few years sure I am just mad at the poor choices now that costs us.I don't mean trade him just to trade him, but if a good deal comes up why not.
     
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    why not?um because you just don't trade a up and comming player with a heap of talent.it's like trading 5 louis williams for a anothny johnson.Nuggets can wait for him develop, the world isn't going to end now.
     
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    <span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">Karl Benches Smith For Remainder Of Series</span><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>[​IMG]Nuggets coach George Karl, who said the Spurs had "out-tricked" the Nuggets in winning Game 3, is about to pull the dirtiest trick of the series on the Spurs: He's sitting mistake-prone J.R. Smith for as long as the series lasts."He's done," Karl said.Asked if the ill-advised, 26-foot shot Smith launched when the Nuggets trailed by four points with 26.9 seconds remaining in Monday's Game 4 had been the "straw that broke the camel's back" for Smith, Karl nodded his head."That shot," Karl said, "I have no idea what planet that came from. And, of course, the one with eight seconds to go from 50 feet.""I just love that," Karl said, his voice dripping with sarcasm, of Smith's heave near the end of the game. "I love the dignity of the game being insulted right in front of me."Asked why he had played him in Game 4 after the costly mistakes Smith had made in Game 3, Karl defended his decision."He's a good-bad player," Karl said. "You evaluate his good and evaluate his bad. He had good plays in Game 3 and he had good plays in the game before that. But you've got to be mentally more secure and tougher than he showed in Game 4."</div>SourceSo much for that long term deal, eh?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ May 2 2007, 02:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Umm I know that why would I not, but he does not know when to chill out he needs a brain scan I think or something. I mean when it is not going and your way of or a coach has a play for someone else unless you really have a great open shot don't just do your own thing I mean pathetic. I like JR was the one saying he should have been starting at SG and move AI to PG instead of starting Blake. I am just tired of the stupid stuff he does that are simple.And if you read the article about Smith getting bench on espn or w/e you see Karl said he had no clue were that shot came from when they were down 4 with like 40 seconds left. He said he made a play for either AI/Melo to take a shot. Not I understand if AI drived inside, and passed to the corner for a OPEN JR Smith shot, but I mean when your coach tells you a play, and you just ignore it and do your own thing shows why I am mad.And I am not saying trade him just to trade him, but if we could get JO, Pau, or KG in a deal were you send Smith +++ packing anyone would do it in a heart beat.</div>I didn't read it until today, since that is when it came out. :rolleyes:Just because he does a few immature plays doesn't mean he should go, even though he is going to now. He is a young player, what do you expect? He should have never started over Blake, if you stopped staring at AI all the games you watch you would notice that. Blake fits perfectly in our offense and JR is good off the bench, we need somebody to fill in and score some when AI, Melo or both are out. Not 3 scorers on all at once.Really, I think we should keep Nene, if we could amazingly get KG for Camby/Nene, JR and something I would want to, but Nene is going to be really good next year. No doubt about it.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Amare320 @ May 2 2007, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why not?um because you just don't trade a up and comming player with a heap of talent.it's like trading 5 louis williams for a anothny johnson.Nuggets can wait for him develop, the world isn't going to end now.</div>WTF are you talking about dude. If they can send JR + for something good you do it. He is not a young Wade/Melo/Lebron you act like he is so big when he is not he is gonna be good, but not none tradeble.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cavsrules @ May 2 2007, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">Karl Benches Smith For Remainder Of Series</span>SourceSo much for that long term deal, eh?</div>Does not mean he won't get a long term deal.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ May 3 2007, 12:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I didn't read it until today, since that is when it came out. :rolleyes:Just because he does a few immature plays doesn't mean he should go, even though he is going to now. He is a young player, what do you expect? He should have never started over Blake, if you stopped staring at AI all the games you watch you would notice that. Blake fits perfectly in our offense and JR is good off the bench, we need somebody to fill in and score some when AI, Melo or both are out. Not 3 scorers on all at once.Really, I think we should keep Nene, if we could amazingly get KG for Camby/Nene, JR and something I would want to, but Nene is going to be really good next year. No doubt about it.</div>Wait why do you think he will go now? I don't think he will.And JR never did start over Blake. But he should have he was fine he got rusty on the bench I think. And it is better to have AI run PG not Blake.Yeah I am only saying trade Nene if we can get a great like KG/JO/Pau maybe all nice all stars PF's
     
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    my badI just wrote a page on how dumbass serge is completly wrong about wether smith should stay in denver but the page F*cked up unfortunately *sigh* lol. mabye next time when I can be bothered, ughhh why do the nuggets need somthing good? they need a role player, get a role player! keep smith, wait a little bit and there you go! you have your ''big 3'' JR, Melo, Nene. You don't find young shoting guards who are on the rise that you know will average 20 a game, it's what the nuggets will eventually need when camby and ai leave town and so on so on, and that's only one point of many I really think that you have to look into a bit more.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Serge @ May 3 2007, 01:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wait why do you think he will go now? I don't think he will.And JR never did start over Blake. But he should have he was fine he got rusty on the bench I think. And it is better to have AI run PG not Blake.Yeah I am only saying trade Nene if we can get a great like KG/JO/Pau maybe all nice all stars PF's</div>Yes. Karl doesn't like him and he doesn't like AI.Never said he did, I was talking about how Blake should have always started at point guard this past season, not have JR in there and AI at point. I don't think he should have, he got rusty in that 10 game suspension. He can be a great spark off the bench. Blake is a better fit at point guard, we need a pass first point guard and AI isn't that.
     
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    Yeah, I guess it didn't do such a thing on him not being re signed this off season.<span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%">Despite Benching Smith Still Wants To Be A Nugget</span><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>[​IMG]At the beginning of the week, Nuggets guard J.R. Smith expressed interest in signing a contract extension that would keep him in Denver beyond the 2007-08 season.A banishment to the bench has done nothing to change his attitude about his long-term future."I love my teammates too much (to want to leave)," Smith said during Denver's morning shootaround Wednesday. "I'm not going to let one person affect my whole lifestyle and the way I am toward my teammates."</div>-RealGM
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ May 3 2007, 07:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes. Karl doesn't like him and he doesn't like AI.Never said he did, I was talking about how Blake should have always started at point guard this past season, not have JR in there and AI at point. I don't think he should have, he got rusty in that 10 game suspension. He can be a great spark off the bench. Blake is a better fit at point guard, we need a pass first point guard and AI isn't that.</div>Thankfully I'm not the only one who saw that Smith never really iked AI coming to Denver (at least at first). I remember when Smith came back from his suspension, he would rarely ever pass the ball to Iverson, even if he was open, but as the season went on that settled down. I think Iverson could be a good mentor to Smith in terms of how to handle the off-court issues, especially since there aren't many players in the league that have more "street-cred" than AI anyway.JR Smith needs the Nuggets, and the Nuggets need JR Smith. Simple as that. I would like to see him remain with the Nuggets, but it will be interesting to see what happens. I don't think too many teams out there will throw a lot of money at him, so keeping him shouldn't be that expensive for Denver.
     
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    I saw it from right when he came back. He was mad that AI took his spot and was immature about it. It really hurt Denver in the playoffs.Yeah, his salary is only 1.3 million I am pretty sure. It isn't like we will have much cap space letting him go.He is a great asset for us, and Denver is the perfect fit for him. He really needs to realize his role, he isn't the star player he wants to be, he needs to realize he is a role player who we need his shooting and athleticism from. He is also, as the Nuggets announcers like to say, the one man comeback. I don't remember who it was against (possibly Hornets), but this year with about 7 or 8 minutes left we were down by 13. He comes in and his a three and another bucket, sparks up the team, we win that game.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Amare320 @ May 3 2007, 05:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>my badI just wrote a page on how dumbass serge is completly wrong about wether smith should stay in denver but the page F*cked up unfortunately *sigh* lol. mabye next time when I can be bothered, ughhh why do the nuggets need somthing good? they need a role player, get a role player! keep smith, wait a little bit and there you go! you have your ''big 3'' JR, Melo, Nene. You don't find young shoting guards who are on the rise that you know will average 20 a game, it's what the nuggets will eventually need when camby and ai leave town and so on so on, and that's only one point of many I really think that you have to look into a bit more.</div>We should keep him, but if we can get what I said then we easy trade him. I never said trade him for crap only if we can get what I said.And AI won't leave for another 3-5 years he will probably retire there. He already said he will resign when his contract is up.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ May 3 2007, 08:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes. Karl doesn't like him and he doesn't like AI.Never said he did, I was talking about how Blake should have always started at point guard this past season, not have JR in there and AI at point. I don't think he should have, he got rusty in that 10 game suspension. He can be a great spark off the bench. Blake is a better fit at point guard, we need a pass first point guard and AI isn't that.</div>Wait Karl does not like Iverson? Huh? Were you get that from?And Iverson should be a PG not Blake man.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ May 3 2007, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thankfully I'm not the only one who saw that Smith never really iked AI coming to Denver (at least at first). I remember when Smith came back from his suspension, he would rarely ever pass the ball to Iverson, even if he was open, but as the season went on that settled down. I think Iverson could be a good mentor to Smith in terms of how to handle the off-court issues, especially since there aren't many players in the league that have more "street-cred" than AI anyway.JR Smith needs the Nuggets, and the Nuggets need JR Smith. Simple as that. I would like to see him remain with the Nuggets, but it will be interesting to see what happens. I don't think too many teams out there will throw a lot of money at him, so keeping him shouldn't be that expensive for Denver.</div>Ow he way saying JR does not like AI. LOL I thought he said Karl does not like AI my bad. LOLAnd I did see JR not pass to AI I was like WTF good point man.I agree AI can help JR out. But then again Melo did not pass back to AI either much and I don't think that means he don't like AI they are friends I mean AI and Melo.
     

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