how'd u guys feel about LAL refs now?...the game and series was purely made by these refs from LA... just like the 02 west finals kingsvsLAL series when bibby's nosebleeding nose fouled kobe's elbow at game7.. welcome guys
Tim Thomas admitted to fouling Kobe in a game saving play in Game 1, Nash got away with a push on Sasha Vujacic to even get the ball in the first place in game 4 with 10 seconds left, and EVERY call in the 3rd qtr went the suns way. Nash himself said he wasn't fouled and wasn't trying to a call a timeout and said he "slipped" up so I'm not really sure what your talking about.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ilive4ball:</div><div class="quote_post">Tim Thomas admitted to fouling Kobe in a game saving play in Game 1, Nash got away with a push on Sasha Vujacic to even get the ball in the first place in game 4 with 10 seconds left, and EVERY call in the 3rd qtr went the suns way. Nash himself said he wasn't fouled and wasn't trying to a call a timeout and said he "slipped" up so I'm not really sure what your talking about.</div> oh..
clearly walton reached in n foul wasn't called...clearly nash yelled for TO and wasnt called...clearly he was pissd bout all that reffing at late games which mostly sets this series nash is hving a tight run for mvp with kobe n others...if he was to cry about the reffing which conclude 90% of this series, without doubts, his mvp run would end there. So nash must eat that dead cat in front of public i hope u know what i'm talking about now
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting steam03:</div><div class="quote_post">clearly walton reached in n foul wasn't called...clearly nash yelled for TO and wasnt called...clearly he was pissd bout all that reffing at late games which mostly sets this series nash is hving a tight run for mvp with kobe n others...if he was to cry about the reffing which conclude 90% of this series, without doubts, his mvp run would end there. So nash must eat that dead cat in front of public i hope u know what i'm talking about now</div> In the post game interview Nash said he was NOT calling timeout. He was trying to kick the ball out and that he made a mistake by dribbling to the corner and then not calling timeout once the trap came. Nash said so himself.
Diaw tried to call the TO but it was too late, they had already called the jump ball. Walton also didn't foul Nash, he created a jump ball. I didn't hear anything on this forum when Thomas fouled Kobe in game 1....
nash's arm was in a time out shape for an instant on the replay and commentators (hubie) said (not shown on actual replay though and diaw was not shown on screen) that diaw did try to call for a time out it was a borderline call for the smush parker steal, therefore i wont' go through that...it's either way... however the last suns play on OT was...well...lets just say it's typical Lakers type of refereeing nash said afterwards he not trying to call time out but clearly he was pissed at that moment...thinking he was fouled or he didnt' get the call for time out i think he is just trying to show class afterwards lakers #8 can rejoice and i admit he's probably the best player right now, the shots he made on regulation (equalizer) and the OT winner was amazing however, the same things can't be said for the lakers referees they just make me want to swear
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">however, the same things can't be said for the lakers referees</div> Game 1, Tim Thomas. Thats all I'm gonna say!
You guys know Nash was fouled. Be happy with your win and just give up trying to justify why it wasn't a foul.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting virve119:</div><div class="quote_post">You guys know Nash was fouled. Be happy with your win and just give up trying to justify why it wasn't a foul.</div> Ain't nobody but Suns fans and Kobe-haters saying its a foul. Phoenix is Barkley's team and even he said it wasn't a foul. I will be happy with my win. Steve Nash is a great sport... now try to copy him won't ya.
The playoffs have exposed the Suns as a soft team. Phil Jackson has shown the if you make steve nash be the scorer the suns probably wont win. I TOLD EVERYONE IN HERE at the beginning of the season that the suns are too small. Turns out the suns biggest problem is protecting the paint and rebounding. Why is that....
notice the suns with and without kurt thomas big big difference to a lesser extent having no amare and brian grant also hurt after marion fouled out...they are pretty much struggling with everything
What kind of person would like Kobe Bryant? He has no class, and he CHEATED ON HIS WIFE! He is a great basketball player, but in this world, that's not much. If Kobe Bryant is your favorite player, you should take a good look at yourself. Steve Nash is a great player, but he's also a great human being. Kobe Bryant is a JERK!
The Suns are small, but they are missing their two best big men. So quit talking crap. We all know what would happen if Amare were playing. SWEEP SWEEP SWEEP. If Kobe were injured, you wouldn't be talking crap.
LOL! I would be surprised if you're over the age of 15. To the rest that are able to carry on a conversation without resorting to personal attacks: Nash made the mistake of driving straight into a place where he can get double teamed and smothered. Everyone knows in that situation, small tacky fouls are not called, the foul didn't actually cause Nash to lose possession of the ball so that's probably why it wasn't called. Nash was probably trying to call time out but it was incredibly hard for the ref to even hear/see anything with the loud noise and waving hands. I personally think nash's teammates (read: Diaw) should've called timeout or made themselves more available to Nash. In the replay on TV, Diaw did try to call time out, but only when the official was alreayd starting to whistle the jump ball. Keep in imnd IM going by what I saw on the TV replay. Bottom line: nash made a poor choice to dribble into a double team and trap, his teammates fail to do their job, good defense by LA, officiating in this particular case wasn't biased or bad. PS: I'm neiither a LA fan or a Pho fan, guess you could call it an outsider's perspective, but that game was very entertaining.
The game was decided by shots and points not by the refs. Stopy crying...like Goerge Lopez said.."why you cryin'!" Lakers baby. I witnes a miracle in the Staples Center.
How about giving the Lakers credit? The Suns aren't a playoff team. They're not that good. In the regular season, they can run and gun all they want, but when the playoffs roll around, they're not good. They gave all their fans a false hope this season with their incredible play without Amare, they gave their fans a fools gold, and the fans fell for it. They don't play good defense, they're not a good post team, and they don't get to the free throw line a lot. It takes all 3 of those to win in the playoffs. You can also add in the Lakers change of play to the reason why PHX isn't going to win this series. Nash admitted he wasn't fouled, he slipped. Even if he was fouled or a time out was called, he didn't have possession. The tie up came before the timeout call and before a foul. It's been a rough, tough series...don't complain about the refs. This is the playoffs, ticky tack fouls are hard to come by. The playoffs are physical, something the Suns aren't ready for. What about game planning? Phil has totally outclassed Mike all series. He has the Lakers making Nash the primary scorer and he can't handle the load of scoring and distributing. Lamar Odom has Marion totally off track, Kobe is in Raja's head, Kwame is in Diaw's head. It's simple, the Suns aren't physically strong enough, nor are they mentally strong enough to get by in the playoffs. That's the reason why they're down 3-1, no the refs.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">What kind of person would like Kobe Bryant? He has no class, and he CHEATED ON HIS WIFE! He is a great basketball player, but in this world, that's not much. If Kobe Bryant is your favorite player, you should take a good look at yourself. Steve Nash is a great player, but he's also a great human being. Kobe Bryant is a JERK!</div>seriously, how old are you? How can you question Kobe's personality or character when you've never even met him. It's as if whatever you've heard from the media about Kobe in the past was echoed and you use that to explain why you the Suns lost. I've personally met Kobe a few times and (the guy talks to his fans, for those who may not have known) and he seems like a decent person (actually, he seems like the sarcastic people always cracking jokes), but i wouldn't really know since i don't know him personally. Damn duke, i know your trying to cop a flea but..
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">What kind of person would like Kobe Bryant? He has no class, and he CHEATED ON HIS WIFE! He is a great basketball player, but in this world, that's not much. If Kobe Bryant is your favorite player, you should take a good look at yourself. Steve Nash is a great player, but he's also a great human being. Kobe Bryant is a JERK</div> I admire his will to succeed and his passion for the game. Not many players, or people for that matter give everything they have to that which they love. Like everyone he has his faults, and yes some of the things he's done really made me shake my head, but at the end of the day I'm a fan of him as a basketball player, and all the sacrifices and devotion that got him to where he is today. If your not a fan of hard work and complete utter devotion, you should, as you say- "take a look at yourself" .
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PhxSunsFan4Life:</div><div class="quote_post">What kind of person would like Kobe Bryant? He has no class, and he CHEATED ON HIS WIFE! He is a great basketball player, but in this world, that's not much. If Kobe Bryant is your favorite player, you should take a good look at yourself. Steve Nash is a great player, but he's also a great human being. Kobe Bryant is a JERK!</div> He made a mistake, but he atoned for it and repaired the relationship with his wife. She has given him a second chance and forgave him, shouldn't that be the end of it?
