So you can be a little shit in school.....

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  1. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    ....disobey teachers orders to leave, disobey the officer to leave, have to get physically removed (because you're being an absolute arrogant entitled little shit) and claim excessive use of force?

    - What recourse does a school have when a student will not remove themselves?

    Teachers can't touch you, without a lawsuit. How does a teacher regain order in a classroom when a student basically latches onto the desk, hands and feet, and continues to disrupt? Suspend them? Shit probably will be appealed by their parents. "it's not my kid, its you!" blame everyone else but themselves.

    Sure, it looks bad when he flips her over, but the reason that occurs is because that person will not release hold on the desk, both hand and feet. I suppose he could have picked up the entire desk and moved her out?

    When you're getting arrested, you have no choice in the matter if you disobey an officer. To me this doesn't bother me.

    If I was in that classroom I'd tell the person that is disturbing the class to get the F' out.

    Everyone is so ready to defend someone clearly causing a problem for others, but it's okay, (insert excuses here); "that cop went to far!!". F'n please. That kid/young adult had it coming. I'd expect the same behavior if I was doing the same thing.

    What do you guys think?
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/departm...robe-violent-south-carolina-classroom-arrest/
     
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  2. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    If the cop was trying to hurt her, she would have been hurt. She suffered no injury.
     
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  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The problem with the social media / cell phone video era is that it only gives part of the story. A lot of these videos don't show an incident from the very beginning until the very end. They usually show a snapshot of a small portion of what happened, and then people react according to that snapshot. It's extremely dangerous because it presents the events as one thing, when they are very clearly something else if you were in the room.
     
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  4. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    I absolutely agree and detest the "viral" video craze.
     
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    Paine Tablet Well-Known Member

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    The vitriol you espouse for a child is damning to your credibility as a thinker.
     
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  6. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    A child? I disagree. The girl was 16. (2) years or less away from being a full blow adult with full blown adult responsibilities.

    Also there is another video that shows the teenager hitting the police officer.


    But by all means continue protecting these 'teens' by calling them children. All it does is continue to allow them to think they can get away with shit like this.
     
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    Paine Tablet Well-Known Member

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    If we thought of 16 year-olds as adults then why do we practically never see them as heads of industry/media/legislation/military/non-profits/religion/governance? Are you going to cite experience as the factor? Or are you going to you use the science behind brain development to explain why 16-year-olds are unfit for vital leadership positions? If you do either you'd be undermining the point you are trying to make. If there is any other cause that you might identify, I'd probably call you an idiot for ignoring the two most obvious reasons why 16-year-olds are not nearly the same thing as 30-year-olds or 50-year-olds.
     
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  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    17 year olds can go into the military with a parental consent. 18 year olds can go into the military on their own. How many heads of industry? Probably not many, but 17 or 18 is apparently old enough to fight and die for this country.
     
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  9. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    Being an adult, or near adult, and being a head of industry is a complete nonsensical argument. But, there are plenty of teenagers that own their own companies. So you're comparison/contrast is moot. So in less than 2 years you think this kid should get the kiddie gloves taken off then? Is there some magical thing that's going to happen all of the sudden when they turn 18? Until then, they can do whatever the fuck they want to people and get away with it?

    You are totally missing the point here on this. You can't keep making excuses for bad parenting, lack of respect for authority, and general contempt numerous kids have now-a-days. Actions have consequences. And unfortunately, kids now don't see that because (no offense) people like you decide to protect them, as if life for them is some sort of playground of niceness, regardless of who they hurt.

    Also... what Nate said above.
     
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    The girl was asked to leave the class, according to people who were actually there, because she had looked at her cell phone during class. Something I imagine about 99% of teens have done, but she's a black girl so she's a "little shit". The other students said she was actually pleading, not fighting. Please don't kick me out of class, I just looked for a second. Instead of getting, say, an hour's detention, she was kicked over and thrown across the room by a grown man who outweighed her by maybe 100+ pounds, a cop with several excessive force complaints.

    The post shows what happens when you decide some human beings are not humans, they are "cockroaches" (Jews) "aliens" (Hispanics), "little shits" (black girls), "perverts" (gays), etc. Do that and any abuse done to them is justified because they are subhuman. After all, who cries when you stomp a cockroach or flush a "little shit" down the toilet?
     
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    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    The fact that you jumped to conclusions that my term "little shit" = black person, makes me completely disregard your entire post.

    Your entire post is full of shit. For the record, so you know how I stand, black/white/brown/purple whatever color of skin that person is does not matter to me. Kids disrespecting authority, are and always will be 'little shits' to me.
     
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  12. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Apparently, there is a third video that clearly shows the girl striking at the officer. I will admit when I first saw this video, I was appalled. I've learned that it's better to not make judgement until we learn all the details.
     
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    CBS showed the video of her striking the officer. It was after he had her in a choke hold, her arms were flailing, not much of a strike.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Seriously? Why would you automatically assume he meant that? Because you don't agree with him, you automatically make him into a monster?
     
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    The Latest: Sheriff fires school officer after class arrest

    12:10 p.m.

    A South Carolina sheriff says he has fired a school officer after video showed him flipping a teen backward out of her desk and tossing her across a classroom.

    Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott said Wednesday that Senior Deputy Ben Fields has been fired. He had been a school resource officer at Spring Valley High School.

    Lott says the maneuver that Fields used on the student was not based on training or acceptable procedure.


    http://news.yahoo.com/latest-lawyer-says-teen-injured-during-school-arrest-114703576.html
     
  16. blue32

    blue32 Who wants a mustache ride?

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    That's a bummer. I know that the PC attack currently on the Police did not help this guy defend his actions. From my POV I thought they were totally justifiable,, I guess he should have pried her off that chair more gently.

    Unfortunately, this does not teach the kid the correct lesson, which is to respect authority (the teacher, the other administrative official there, and the police).
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Yeah I haven't watched the video, so I can't give an opinion. I was just relaying what I read.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I am pro blue, but the video seemed a little excessive to me. I still think the girl is a little shit, but not to be treated like that.
     
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    donkiez Well-Known Member

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    This is the correct response imo. The girl is a shit, the cop was out of line. He is trained and paid to correctly deal with these types of situations. He should have been fired and im glad he was, we need real professionals behind the badge. Not this joker

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    The Sheriff folded in the face of the pressure. I don't imagine the deputy enjoyed the encounter at all, but he was the one that drew the short straw to remove the young lady against her will.
    I don't like these cases where the grunt gets canned, and the boss says he didn't do it right! Just how the hell do you arrest someone that will not follow orders and punches the officer when he reaches for her hand to cuff it? Perhaps snatching her out of her chair by the hair would be a tad better. Then there is the cattle prod, a couple zaps to the ass will always get them moving.
     

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