OT Social Credit Scores here we come?

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  1. beast blazer

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    Dr. Mercola's has a business where he sells various supplements and writes articles on natural health. Some may not like that, and thing those things distract from getting modern medical care or whatever. Which is fine, you have a right to your view, though I think what he's selling is less toxic that someone selling alcohol.

    But things like this have been creeping up on us, and the things that make you a "deplorable" worthy of such ostratization gets wider and wider. This is NOT a good path for our society.
     
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    Gonna throw a couple more tweets into this thread that connect to this one. Haven't really heard anything about this particular area of complaints, but there seems to be a group of people claiming that society is attempting to silence them through unofficial economic sanctions.
     
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    (Apparently it's not just the private sector; the federal government's also allegedly part of this conspiracy...)


     
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    If you have the power to "flip a switch" and exclude someone from the economy, that's a very effective tool of control. There is no one person to go after. No spectacle of abuse that might turn public-sentiment against you (which can lead to revoltions against the ruling class). Johnny broke the rules, he's a bad person. Who is going to write the rules and to what end?
     
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    No company should be forced to do business with antivaxxers or other people who spout provably false misinformation. Like this asshole. He knows better. I have no sympathy at all for him.

    Poor and minorities have dealt with bullshit worse than this forever. We should have a national bank that charges no fees and doesn't allow over drafting.

    Every USPS should be a physical location.

    Problem solved.
     
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    I don't know how much separation there is anymore between the major corporations and the federal government. They seem to be blending together. I believe we have something that is more like a "ruling elite", than a government for the people by the people.

    There may be no conspiracy to this. But to me, the things I see happening seem like someone is trying to slowly turn the dial (the cook the frog slowly analogy).
     
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    Take a look into the mirror.
     
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    This seems like nothing but a marketing ploy for a bank no one has ever heard of.


     
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    I think we should all desire, to live in a world, where those who are critical of anyone in power, who push back against the safety or ethics of any product they produce or action they undertake, have their ability to purchase cut off. Seems like a great situation.
     
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    You cant be serious with this are you? With how business and gov are so hand in hand?

    We need business regulations like never before.

    Ooorrrr lets just let them create one giant monopoly and serve only those who bow down to them.
    Yeah right…
     
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    Nobody suggested allowing a monopoly. I suggested the government offer a service that would empower much of tthe poor in this country. Many poor and minorities are locked out of the banking system due to predatory practices at banks.
     
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    You suggested it by stating no private business should be forced…

    I took that and the result would be companies creating legal monopolies.

    You should reread your first sentence/paragraph in your first post.
    you are contradicting your own statements it seems.
    What does usps have to do with this btw?

    not even sure you understood the op based on your post?

    So if i own a business and i disagree with you on this very topic i can refuse to do business with you and everyone else i disagree with?

    so follow that down the line. People will say yes and the market will weed them out.

    but no it wont if the gov is subsiding companies that they align with politically. And subsidizing can be done in various ways. Not just financial.

    End result is we are on the brink of an elite entity running things and it seems you want to supplrt that.

    not me. Im all for more policies restricting marriages of gov and business and regulating business in such a manner that they aren't able to deny business based on individual opinions regarding politics unless it provides a direct hazard to said business.
    This cancel shit is way out of hand and now businesses are hopping on the bandwagon.

    support it if you like, but I'm pretty sure you will be in a very small minority group.
     
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    How?
    I've done so

    How?


    USPS has many locations owned and staffed by the government who could offer ATM and basic banking needs with very little effort or ramp up

    Yes. As long as they aren't a protected class of people or for a protected reason.

    I'm not following you. I don't see how this is related to my post.

    I'm not sure what elite entity you're referring to or how giving people a right to basic banking has anything to do with this elite entity.

    Being associated with crooks and snake oil salesman can be a hazard to a company.

    I'm not following your logic. No business should be forced to do business with crooks or con men. These people have the right to say these lies, but no business should be forced to enable them to profit by telling lies that harm the economy and country as a whole..
     
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    So many have fallen for the idea that it's ok to censor/oppress those they disagree with. The stupidity of that mindset is sad/pathetic. But the media has been programming dimwits to accept this. And they can't even see how hypocritical they are.

    Let me lay this out very simply.
    1. Private businesses can become corrupt.
    2. A role of government should be to protect the public from corruption in the private sector.
    3. Government can become corrupt.
    4. Without the ability to be critical of both private business and government, how will anything ever change? This is why freedom of speech was designated as the 1st amendment.

    You have no democracy without freedom of speech. Free speech is the cornerstone of democracy yet how many talking heads are state the opposite that it's a "threat to our democracy". If you think censorship is only ever going to work in your favor, you're a fool.
     
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    Lol. The first amendment doesn't protect you from the social or business repercussions of telling lies. It only says government can't limit your speech.

    Private parties and businesses can punish you for your statements by refusing to associate with you. As has always been the case.

    Freedom of association is a right we all enjoy.
    That liberty in a free society ensures the right of private parties to associate, as against third parties, and the right not to associate as well—that is, the right to discriminate for any reason, good or bad, or no reason at all. The exceptions at common law were for monopolies and common carriers.
     
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    1. This is not limited to private business
    2. I never said it was a violation of the 1st amendment, I said the first amendment was created because the founders understood the value of free speech.
    3. I refer you to the questions posed in the original post, about exclusion from society based on disagreeing. But it seems you apparently are in favor of those things, so there isn't much use in talking to you about it further.
     
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    I do not support government discriminating. That is unconstitutional. If this is happening I'm sure the ACLU is all over it. And if they aren't, they should be.

    Freedom Of Association guarantees it.

     
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