<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">5. Yao Ming, Houston: We're still waiting on him to take his game to the next level. At 7-feet-5, he needs to dominate, needs to assert himself as a force, and as he enters year No. 4 in the NBA, he has showed only flashes of those abilities. Consider that in the Chinese League, he averaged over 19 rebounds in each of his last two seasons before coming over, scoring about 30 per game. While the level of competition is obviously much tougher here, he should still be breaking the 20 point-10 rebound barrier. With Tracy McGrady taking some of the pressure off him, he should step up and embrace the advantages his size and skill level afford him.</div> http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/8895427 The top 4 are: 1.Shaquille O'Neal 2.Amare Stoudemire 3.Ben Wallace 4.Chris Bosh -I agree with Shaq -I beleive its a tie between Yao and Amare -Ben Wallace is only a Defensive player while Yao is balanced -Bosh is more of a PF and is not better than Yao @ Center This list just makes no sense to me. I cant wait for this season. So the new "bigger" Yao can show these guys what a Center is.
Most sports writers tend to ignore the fact that Yao usually plays only around 31 minutes a game. If he played an average number of minutes for a player of his caliber, say 38 minutes a game, then he'd easily average over 10 rebounds a game. Also, one has to factor in the very slow pace the Rockets play at. There simply aren't that many rebounds to be had in a typical Rockets game. That said, I do wish Yao would be more consistent on the boards. But his rebounding numbers aren't as bad as they might look at first glance. I'm more worried about his fouls than anything else. That's the one statistical category where he HAS to improve for the Rockets to advance deep into the playoffs.
Bosh is not a centre. Neither is Amare, but he at least plays there on a regular basis. Bosh is, and always will be a four. Brad Miller is a far better player than he is given credit for in that article, too.
WOW i can't believe they put Bosh in front of Yao. Do they hate the guy? I can see Ben wallace being better, but in no way Bosh. If Yao does what I'm expecting and hoping he accomplishes this year then he passes Amare.
haha......these articles get funny and funnier. Anybody who puts Ben Wallace or Chris Bosh over Yao shouldn't be allowed to write another article in they're lives. Ben Wallace doesn't have any offense, and Chris Bosh hasn't even mature yet. I think this was written simply for shock value
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">Most sports writers tend to ignore the fact that Yao usually plays only around 31 minutes a game. If he played an average number of minutes for a player of his caliber, say 38 minutes a game, then he'd easily average over 10 rebounds a game. Also, one has to factor in the very slow pace the Rockets play at. There simply aren't that many rebounds to be had in a typical Rockets game. That said, I do wish Yao would be more consistent on the boards. But his rebounding numbers aren't as bad as they might look at first glance. I'm more worried about his fouls than anything else. That's the one statistical category where he HAS to improve for the Rockets to advance deep into the playoffs.</div> I agree with you , Yao just can't get enough time for his foul problem because of the poor defense of PG and the idiocy ref.
you mean to tell me you guys wouldn't take Bosh over Yao???? *dream tries his hardest to hold back laughter*
I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not, but if you weren't I would not take Bosh over Yao. Bosh is a PF and not a center. Centers are of great value in the league especially one with yao's hieght and potential. Yes potential, but Bosh also has potential and will be a good player. Yao isn't only a difference on the court. He attracts players to come to the Rockets. yes.. all stars do attract players to their team, but yao brings a sense of grace and uniqueness to the Rockets.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">haha......these articles get funny and funnier. Anybody who puts Ben Wallace or Chris Bosh over Yao shouldn't be allowed to write another article in they're lives. Ben Wallace doesn't have any offense, and Chris Bosh hasn't even mature yet. I think this was written simply for shock value</div> Get over it Rockets fans. Yao is a very good player with huge Potential but he is not better than Amare Stoudemire or Ben Wallace (not yet anyways). I would take Amare over Yao in the blink of an eye. So would any of you if you had the choice, but most of you are enticed by his height and think he is something that hes not. Don't get me wrong, I'm not puttin Yao down, and I'm certainly not trying to start an arguement (Please don't start telling me how much better Yao is than Brad Miller, I already know.). But u guys go on like Yao is God. Every time I come on this site there is an active topic about Yao (mostly something stupid like "can he cook" or "Yaos birthday"), and its starting to get irritating, so give it up, u are lucky enough to have a huge talent on your team so don't ruin it for the rest of us and make us hate Yao. Thanks
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">Get over it Rockets fans. Yao is a very good player with huge Potential but he is not better than Amare Stoudemire or Ben Wallace (not yet anyways). I would take Amare over Yao in the blink of an eye. So would any of you if you had the choice, but most of you are enticed by his height and think he is something that hes not</div> First off, I respect your opinion. BUT, you can't be serious. Yao isn't GREAT yet by any means. However, Yao is very solid. I think people get it twisted. Your probably right, Amare is better than Yao right now. Who cares? Yao is still a very solid player, with potential. I just hate the fact that you would have the nerve to put Ben "no offense" Wallace over a well rounded Yao Ming. Compared to any other player in his first 3 years, Yao's numbers are very good. Rocket fans know where Yao's game is, it's only people like you (shooting machine) that make silly comments like that one. 95% of most experts I've heard, say Yao is the second best center in the league. So you putting Ben Wallace over Yao makes you look very silly. Put it this way, who would you build a franchise around, Ming or Wallace? Matter fact that's a stupid question, Ben ain't touchin Yao.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">First off, I respect your opinion. BUT, you can't be serious. Yao isn't GREAT yet by any means. However, Yao is very solid. I think people get it twisted. Your probably right, Amare is better than Yao right now. Who cares? Yao is still a very solid player, with potential. I just hate the fact that you would have the nerve to put Ben "no offense" Wallace over a well rounded Yao Ming. Compared to any other player in his first 3 years, Yao's numbers are very good. Rocket fans know where Yao's game is, it's only people like you (shooting machine) that make silly comments like that one. 95% of most experts I've heard, say Yao is the second best center in the league. So you putting Ben Wallace over Yao makes you look very silly. Put it this way, who would you build a franchise around, Ming or Wallace? Matter fact that's a stupid question, Ben ain't touchin Yao.</div> This is exactly how I dont want people to see my post as. The reason I put Ben over Yao is a personal choice for NOW. No way in hell would I pick him over Yao if I was to build a franchise. I don't think anyone would. The reason I put Ben over him now is because Ben is an animal, period. I like my big men to be big men, something that Yao isn't great at but he can only get better at it. Ben has proved he will give absolutely everything for his team night in night out, he has proved he can be an MVP candidate in the finals, and he also showed some more offense over the last few seasons. Not that Yao wont improve, I'm just saying ; Do u think Yao can be MVP material in the finals with better players (Well Tracy anyways) around him like Ben showed?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">This is exactly how I dont want people to see my post as. The reason I put Ben over Yao is a personal choice for NOW</div> Well it's obvious your a Ben Wallace fan, but he isn't better than Yao. He isn't now, and won't ever be. Yao right now, is the second best center in the league (Amare's a PF). If you want to put Amare over him, fine. I can't really argue that. Amare's simply better at this point.
this is one the worst lists i've seen. first of all bosh isn't a center and even if he does play it, what makes him better thatn yao? not stats not size. i am a chris bosh fan by the way. also ben wallace is just a good defensive role player, he can't do alot of the things yao can do namely score and keep shaq in check (most times). yao should be at number 3 at most if amare is considered a center.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">Get over it Rockets fans. Yao is a very good player with huge Potential but he is not better than Amare Stoudemire or Ben Wallace (not yet anyways). I would take Amare over Yao in the blink of an eye. So would any of you if you had the choice, but most of you are enticed by his height and think he is something that hes not. Don't get me wrong, I'm not puttin Yao down, and I'm certainly not trying to start an arguement (Please don't start telling me how much better Yao is than Brad Miller, I already know.). But u guys go on like Yao is God. Every time I come on this site there is an active topic about Yao (mostly something stupid like "can he cook" or "Yaos birthday"), and its starting to get irritating, so give it up, u are lucky enough to have a huge talent on your team so don't ruin it for the rest of us and make us hate Yao. Thanks </div> First off, no one is kissing Yao's shoe here. The "Can Yao Cook" thread has already been moved to the off-topic lounge as soon as possible and the thread about his birthday is more about his game with the Chinese Natl Team that day than his actually turning 25. Besides, go to the Lakers forum and you'll see a thread on Kobe, go to the Heat forum and you'll see something on Shaq, just that the Kings forum is too stagnant to have so many threads about Bibby or Stojakovic. Also, refer to this thread, most people don't think Yao will average 25/12, but it's people like you who believe that every Rockets fan believes he will. http://www.justbball.com/forums/showthread...?t=35883&page=1
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">haha......these articles get funny and funnier. Anybody who puts Ben Wallace or Chris Bosh over Yao shouldn't be allowed to write another article in they're lives. Ben Wallace doesn't have any offense, and Chris Bosh hasn't even mature yet. I think this was written simply for shock value</div> Ben averages 10 points per game, hardly terrible for a guy who's role isn't to score. Ben what he lacks on the offensive end makes up for It with amazing defense. He is 3 time DPOY for a reason. No NBA list should have Yao ahead of Ben. At least not yet anyway. Ben's impact is far greater than Yao's.
^^^^Eeeemmm I wouldn't say that....Yao being 7'6 attracts a lot of attention from defenses and opens up a lot for his teammates.......I can see putting Shaq or Amarie over Yao, but not Ben....I love Ben Wallace, but can you honestly say that you would rather for him to be in a Rockets uni than Yao???
Ben wallace fits his team. If he was on the Rockets team. He would be backing up Yao. We need offense from our center and not defense. Ben wallace fits perfectly with detroit for his amazing D. Yao is more balanced and even though his defense isn't better than ben but it can only get better.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Ben averages 10 points per game, hardly terrible for a guy who's role isn't to score. Ben what he lacks on the offensive end makes up for It with amazing defense. He is 3 time DPOY for a reason. No NBA list should have Yao ahead of Ben. At least not yet anyway. Ben's impact is far greater than Yao's.</div> lol......you lost the little credibility you had with that statement. I could be a diplomat and say I respect that opinion, but that's just too laughable to even think about. Yao averaged 18pts and 8 rebs last season on .552% shooting. Compared to 9.7pts and 12.2 rebs and .453% shooting. Keep in mind, Yao also averaged around the same amount of blocks (2.00). "No NBA list should have Yao ahead of Ben" are the type of comments that makes people question your basketball knowledge. Ben Wallace is high classed "garbage player". Outside of his defense (a tad bit overrated), and rebs, his points mostly come from garbage pts. On the other hand, Yao can score on anybody, and is overrall better and CLEARLY more talented. CHECK THE STATS
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">lol......you lost the little credibility you had with that statement. I could be a diplomat and say I respect that opinion, but that's just too laughable to even think about. Yao averaged 18pts and 8 rebs last season on .552% shooting. Compared to 9.7pts and 12.2 rebs and .453% shooting. Keep in mind, Yao also averaged around the same amount of blocks (2.00). "No NBA list should have Yao ahead of Ben" are the type of comments that makes people question your basketball knowledge. Ben Wallace is high classed "garbage player". Outside of his defense (a tad bit overrated), and rebs, his points mostly come from garbage pts. On the other hand, Yao can score on anybody, and is overrall better and CLEARLY more talented. CHECK THE STATS</div> No one ever questions my basketball knowledge. Coming from you who have made more laughable comments in a space of a few days than anyone here in the history of JBB. You should never be one to judge another's basketball knowledge when you clearly don't appear to have much. I have doubts you even watch the NBA. Seems like all you do is look at boxscores. Yao may of averaged just under what ben Wallace averaged in blocks but Yao doesn't change shots like Ben Wallace does. Ben Wallace is the one guy most teams fear of attacking. His impact is what makes the Pistons a title contender. Ben does everything better than Yao but scoring. Ben Wallace helped guide the Pistons to an NBA title with championship defense. What has Yao actually done thats worth mentioning? mentioning Ben Wallace's offense is pointless as thats not what his job is for. He is there to rebound, block shots, change shots and because of that gets the Pistons offense going. Yao doesn't have anywhere near the amount of impact as Ben Wallace has on a game.
