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  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Anyone been following this?

    https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/2/22914720/spotify-q4-earnings-creators-audio-podcast-joe-rogan

    Spotify says it’s a creator company now

    Spotify released its quarterly earnings today during a particularly fraught time for the company. Its star podcaster, Joe Rogan, spurred multiple musicians to pull their discographies from the platform over his show’s spreading of misinformation; Spotify-employed podcasters themselves spoke out, and even the White House responded.

    CEO Daniel Ek fielded questions about the backlash to having Rogan on the platform and stood by the company’s decision to host, distribute, and monetize the show. He instead tried to reframe the discussion as one of free speech and making Spotify a platform that can help all audio creators make a living, regardless of their opinions.

    “We’re trying to balance creative expression with the safety of our users, and of course, this is a very complicated issue,” he said. He also added that it was too early to know whether Rogan-spurred cancellations would represent a substantial problem.

    He then pointed to the company’s promise to roll out a COVID-19 disclaimer on any podcast episode that discusses the virus, as well as its public rollout of its content moderation policies as things he feels “really good about.”

    “I do believe they’re right for our platform,” he says, adding that although Rogan is the top podcaster in 90 markets on its platform, the company has “something for everyone,” including all advertisers, which is becoming a bigger part of the company’s bottom line.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    I don't see the big deal. I've listened a few times to Rogan, he just kind of does a narrative interview, asks questions, makes comments.

    Shit is too long for me to listen to consistently though.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I assume this another one of those things about which I'm supposed to be outraged?
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Spotify lost $4 BILLION in market value over this :blink:
     
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    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    He has some good shows. He's good at asking questions and having a discussion. And he gets great guests.

    He's not a doctor and should not be giving medical advice. Some people may stand for that. Many will not, and will pull support for it.

    I was considering signing up for Spotify, but am no longer considering it.
     
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    Yeah, that's kind of the same for me. If he has a guest I'm interested in I may give a listen but jesus, they are long. A few of my buddies listen to every word as gospel. Idiots.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    “For those wondering if people like Neil Young leaving Spotify or average people cancelling their accounts, has had an impact on the company; Spotify stock has dropped over 12% in overnight trading. It's lost almost $30B in one day.

    Dr. Rogan sure stepped in it :blink:
     
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    What was the misinformation? Was there a specific clip or quote people are referring to? Or he’s just bad in general? I rarely listen to a full episode, but do see quite a few YouTube clips, he seems pretty mild mannered and even left of center politically.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    If you'd like.
     
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    He had Dr. Robert Malone on his show
     
  12. ABM

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    I enjoyed viewing the vid that was shared above. He appears to be a pretty level-headed dude.
     
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    Yeah, Rogan is full of shit here.
    You would never have been banned from a legit website just for saying you could still catch and spread covid-19 while wearing masks or after being vaccinated.

    It has always been known that it's possible to catch and spread covid-19 despite both, but at lower rates than without.
     
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    Who's got time to watch that drivel?
     
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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...unning-list-of-artist-boycotts-over-joe-rogan

    Spotify’s Problems Grow as More Artists Join Boycott
    Authors, podcasters join musicians in leaving streaming service


    The list of musicians and podcasters banding together to remove their content from Spotify Technology SA is growing, adding to the streaming service’s troubles. Spotify also offered subscriber projections on Wednesday that fell below Wall Street forecasts for the first quarter, sending its stock tumbling in late trading.

    The streaming giant has faced mounting criticism after singer-songwriter Neil Young followed through on threats to remove his music from Spotify. He accused the streamer’s star podcaster, Joe Rogan, of spreading vaccine misinformation on his show, “The Joe Rogan Experience.”

    In a letter posted on his website, Young wrote: “They can have Rogan or Young. Not both.” A day later, Young announced his music would come off the platform.
     
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    11 million-ish people per episode, apparently. About 10 times more people than CNN’s top shows pull.
     
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    Joe Rogan is my hero.
     
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    https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/3/2...n-daniel-ek-town-hall-speech-platform-podcast

    Spotify CEO defends Joe Rogan deal in tense company town hall
    He says Spotify is a platform for Rogan, but publisher for Gimlet

    Spotify CEO Daniel Ek addressed employees about the Joe Rogan controversy in a 15-minute speech yesterday, of which The Verge obtained audio, defending the company’s choice to work with Rogan, explaining its reasoning, and defining why he believes Spotify is a combination of a platform and a publisher. Employees had been skeptically awaiting the discussion at the company’s regular town hall meeting for nearly a week: since things had escalated with Joe Rogan, the company’s star exclusive podcaster, employees had been venting inside the corporate messaging system and awaiting a response from leadership about why it chose The Joe Rogan Experienceover Neil Young, setting off a domino effect of other musicians and podcasters pulling content off the service......(CONTINUED)
     
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    I'll say this... If Joe lays off the medical advice and is smarter about having legitimate professionals on air around the same time as his controversial guests (or even at the same time) I'd be interested in paying more attention.

    He has an opportunity to do something very productive here. He could actually moderate "debates" about important topics and people may actually listen.

    I don't think Joe Rogan is a charlatan the same way an Alex Jones, Bill O'Reilly, Donald Trump, etc is.
     
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    To each their own.

    Joe Rogan is my hero.

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