Start a franchise with which 5 starters

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  1. phunDamentalz

    phunDamentalz JBB JustBBall Member

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    Simple:
    If you could start a franchise with any 5 current players as they are now CURRENTLY, not IF they're healthy, but just as they are right now to start next season, and the goal for your franchise is to create a dynasty in about 2 or 3 years, who would you pick for your starting 5.

    Mine:

    Carmelo Anthony
    Deron Williams
    Chris Bosh
    Ben Gordon
    Amare Stoudemire

    Kobe and DIrk are too old already to be thinking about dominating 3 years down the line.
    And LeBron...I have questions about his head, not his talent, but his will to win......the above 5 have more than shown me their passion for winning
     
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    Chris Paul
    Dwyane Wade
    LeBron James
    Chris Bosh
    Dwight Howard
     
  3. phunDamentalz

    phunDamentalz JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Bobcats Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Chris Paul
    Dwyane Wade
    LeBron James
    Chris Bosh
    Dwight Howard</div>

    come on Bobcats, surprise me with one unconventional choice![​IMG]
    ah well...can't argue with those
     
  4. P.A.P.

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    <div class="quote_poster">Bobcats Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Chris Paul
    Dwyane Wade
    LeBron James
    Chris Bosh
    Dwight Howard</div>

    ^^^

    Those are the clear 5 IMO. You coul dmake arguements for Arenas, Deron Williams, Amare, Yao, but the 5 above are the better choices, factoring age, injuries, skill and talent.

    I love Deron Williams, but I chose Paul because I believe he has a higher ceiling and with his quickness and ability to control a game, he can take over and make plays at ease.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">come on Bobcats, surprise me with one unconventional choice![​IMG]
    ah well...can't argue with those</div>

    Well, I could also go with:

    Deron Williams
    Joe Johnson
    Carmelo Anthony
    Emeka Okafor
    Yao Ming

    Either one would be fine with me.[​IMG]
     
  6. J_Ray

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    <div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">come on Bobcats, surprise me with one unconventional choice![​IMG]
    ah well...can't argue with those</div>

    <div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">

    Carmelo Anthony
    Deron Williams
    Chris Bosh
    Ben Gordon
    Amare Stoudemire
    </div>

    And you have a unconventional pick in yours? [​IMG]


    Here's mine:
    PG-Shaun Livingston
    SG-Luther Head
    SF-Josh Smith
    PF-Dwight Howard
    C-Andris Biedrins
     
  7. phunDamentalz

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    <div class="quote_poster">Bobcats Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well, I could also go with:

    Deron Williams
    Joe Johnson
    Carmelo Anthony
    Emeka Okafor
    Yao Ming

    Either one would be fine with me.[​IMG]</div>

    Now you're talking....
    I left off Yao because I wanted a center who could get out and run.
    And I chose Deron over C. Paul because I think he might be better in a slowed-down game if a team brought that.
    So the way the pieces fit is important i reckon.



    <div class="quote_poster">J_Ray Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">And you have a unconventional pick in yours? [​IMG] </div>
    Well there's no LeBron for one thing..
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Here's mine:
    PG-Shaun Livingston
    SG-Luther Head
    SF-Josh Smith
    PF-Dwight Howard
    C-Andris Biedrins</div>
    brave choices
     
  8. Skiptomylue11

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    PG: Kirk Hinrich
    SG: Dwyane Wade
    SF: Jason Kapono
    PF: Dwight Howard
    C: Yao Ming
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">J_Ray Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">And you have a unconventional pick in yours? [​IMG]


    Here's mine:
    PG-Shaun Livingston
    SG-Luther Head
    SF-Josh Smith
    PF-Dwight Howard
    C-Andris Biedrins</div>

    Oh man, that team would struggle to score. But I read your question wrong

    PG- Chris Paul
    SG- Dwyane Wade
    SF- Boris Diaw
    PF- David Lee
    -C- Dwight Howard

    I think this team has a bit of everything.
     
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    I think Bargnani and Roy should get some consideration later in the season

    PG- Kirk
    SG- Carmelo
    SF- Lebron
    PF- Bosh
    C- Dwight

    =

    Unstoppable
     
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    PG Deron Williams - Fast becoming my favorite 1 in the league
    SG Cuttino Mobley - Veteran presence, still a good outside shooter and locker room guy
    SF Shane Battier - Defensive stopper, and he's proving he can score, too. Great all-around player.
    PF Elton Brand - Tough interior scorer, blue-collar rebounder and leader. I'd love to build a team around guys like him and Williams.
    C Joel Pryzbilla - I like his rebounding and shot-blocking ability.

    Bench

    G/F Desmond Mason - One of my favorite guys, consumate 6th man
    PG Anthony Johnson - Steady veteran hand for Williams and comes up in the clutch
    F/C Anderson Varaejo - Energy guy on both ends of the court
    PF Ike Diogu - A guy I still expect to become a good player
    G Travis Diener - Hustle guy who can hit some 3s and play defense

    EDIT - Replaced Dwight with Brand, a more polished and go-to offensive player. If I were a coach, thinking of Deron and Elton running the pick and roll would help me sleep well at night.
     
  12. phunDamentalz

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    <div class="quote_poster">AirJordan Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I think Bargnani and Roy should get some consideration later in the season

    PG- Kirk
    SG- Carmelo
    SF- Lebron
    PF- Bosh
    C- Dwight

    =

    Unstoppable</div>
    Carmelo at the 2 though??[​IMG] he's too slow to play that position

    <div class="quote_poster">P.A.P. Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Oh man, that team would struggle to score. But I read your question wrong

    PG- Chris Paul
    SG- Dwyane Wade
    SF- Boris Diaw
    PF- David Lee
    -C- Dwight Howard

    I think this team has a bit of everything.</div>I agree - that team could be a dynasty.

    <div class="quote_poster">Schaddy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">PG Deron Williams - Fast becoming my favorite 1 in the league
    SG Cuttino Mobley - Veteran presence, still a good outside shooter and locker room guy
    SF Shane Battier - Defensive stopper, and he's proving he can score, too. Great all-around player.
    PF Dwight Howard - Still the most underrated young superstar. He's going to be among the best of his generation.
    C Joel Pryzbilla - I like his rebounding and shot-blocking ability.

    Bench

    G/F Desmond Mason - One of my favorite guys, consumate 6th man
    PG Anthony Johnson - Steady veteran hand for Williams and comes up in the clutch
    F/C Anderson Varaejo - Energy guy on both ends of the court
    PF Ike Diogu - A guy I still expect to become a good player
    G Travis Diener - Hustle guy who can hit some 3s and play defense</div>

    I'm not sure you have an unstoppable scorer in that list though.
     
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    yao
    bosh
    josh howard
    gerld wallace
    chris paul/deron williams
     
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    PG- Rodriguez
    SG- Wade
    SF- G-Force
    PF- Warrick
    C- Big Ben

    The amount of fast-breaks would be mind boggling. Granted Sergio develops the way I know he will. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">rafy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">PG- Rodriguez
    SG- Wade
    SF- G-Force
    PF- Warrick
    C- Big Ben

    The amount of fast-breaks would be mind boggling. Granted Sergio develops the way I know he will. [​IMG]</div>

    who is G-Force? Is that Gerald Wallace??
    For fast breaks I think you want Amare or Dwight over Big Ben also.'
    Sergio is a cool player though, wish i could see him more.
     
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    C - Yao
    PF - Dirk (he'll still be good in 3 years)
    SF - Lebron
    SG - Kobe (he'll still be good in 3 years)
    PG - Wade
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">C - Yao
    PF - Dirk (he'll still be good in 3 years)
    SF - Lebron
    SG - Kobe (he'll still be good in 3 years)
    PG - Wade</div>
    <u>Checking if there are enough shots available:</u>

    This year for players:
    Wade = 19 FGA/pg
    Kobe = 20 FGA/pg
    Lebron = 20 FGA/pg
    Yao = 18 FGA/pg
    Dirk = 17 FGA/pg

    95 FGA/pg

    The Lakers last year averaged 80.5 FGA/pg
    The Rockets averaged 76 FGA/pg last year
    Phoenix average 87.4 FGA/pg last year.

    Hmmm I guess if they played at the Suns' pace and all only took 17 FGA/pg and didn't allow the bench to take any shots, then there would be enough shots.
     
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    Lebron, Wade, and even Kobe have shown that they can be unselfish....
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">THE DREAM Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">C - Yao
    PF - Dirk (he'll still be good in 3 years)
    SF - Lebron
    SG - Kobe (he'll still be good in 3 years)
    PG - Wade</div>

    that team would the best team alltime IF and only IF Yao learned to take charges.[​IMG]
    any game they played would be a fast break with Yao the last one back.
    or actually first back cause he would be trailing the play
     
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    PG-Deron Williams
    SG-Kobe Bryant
    SF-Lebron
    PF-Dwight Howard
    C-Yao Ming

    6th man-Bassy Telfair
     

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