I think it's safe to say on 6/2/07, we have just witnessed a start of a new era and the end of the old era. LeBron James just 4 years in the league takes the Cavs to the NBA Finals and you gotta believe they will only get better every year, while the Pistons will just be second tier to them as they lost Ben Wallace. What do you guys think? The Cavs will dominate the East for a long time to come.
If we can get a Pippen equivalent like shawn Marion, then no one is stopping the Cavs any time soon. If Kobe gets traded and my some miracle winds up on the Cavs, then you might as well be prepared for 10+ championships in a row.
<div class="quote_poster">Will637 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> What do you guys think? The Cavs will dominate the East for a long time to come.</div> Don't sleep on Wade, even though I hate the guy he ain't going nowhere. Also Chris Bosh has Tim Duncanesque potential But if I had to bet on say who will be the best team over the next 5 years in the East, I would say whatever team LeBron is on....
<div class="quote_poster">Lostmyluggage Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If Kobe gets traded and my some miracle winds up on the Cavs, then you might as well be prepared for 10+ championships in a row.</div>
lol they didn't even win the title yet adn your talking about a dynasty...just noticed your talking abotu a dynasty in the east, i can see it since a lot of the stars in the east are nearing 30 other than wade bosh and wade
We have Orlando with a rising Dwight Howard. Miami has Wade and a HOF coach. Kobe in search of a contender. Spurs are their usual selfs. Suns are hungry as are the Mavs. I don't think its too safe to put money on the Cavs becoming contenders. EDIT: Can't forget about Portland and Seattle. I herd they might be picking up some decent players in this years draft.
^^^coming from mad detroit fan (I like to use pun..lol)....I think it's "safe" to say that the Heat and the Cavs can dominate the east for years to come (until another big name superstar gets there...)
Whoa, whoa, whoa, who is going to stop Dwight Howard and Chris Bosh in five years? Shaq will have retired and Big Z will be old and even less productive than he is now. I don't think you can say that the Cavaliers will dominate the East for years to come because there are so many talented young players in the conference that could pose a threat to this so called "dynasty". Seriously though, name someone that's going to slow down Dwight in a few years. I honestly can't think of anyone. The top five teams in the East in three-five years will be Cleveland, Toronto, Orlando, Chicago, and maybe Miami if they can add some more young talent around Wade.
Like the Nuggets laughed at the Lakers, I laughed when I read this. Dynasty? That word is thrown around way to often. The Lakers were a dynasty, the Spurs are a dynasty. You need more than one player to be a dynasty. If LeBron doesn't get help around him, his body is going to take a beating that it won't be able to endure over the span of seasons, eventually cutting his productivity short. If the Cavs can get some help around him and preserve his body for awhile, then towards the end of his career, he'll be more productive. The start of a great team? Maybe, but a dynasty? Not even close. Ask me again when they've won 3 rings in the span of 5 seasons. Who's to say that they will dominate the east? The Wizards have Arenas, Butler, Jamison, and a young stud in Blatche (they'll only get better). The Magic have an ideal lineup around Howard who is going to dominate the league, the Raptors have Bosh and Bargnani. And did you forget the Western conference teams? The Blazers, soon, will have Oden and Roy, The Suns in the future will have Amare and Barbosa. The last two dynasties have revolved around big men, something the Cavs don't have. Say what you want about the run and gun offense, but it hasn't won a championship in recent memory. Big men are still the most important part of a championship team. EDIT: How in the world did I forget the Bulls? Especially if they get Kobe Bryant, that team will be unstoppable. I'll take the Bulls in two years over the Cavaliers in two years (if there are no major changes to their rosters).
Also, don't teams have to win multiple championships before the word dynasty is thrown around? Cleveland still hasn't won anything if I'm not mistaken...
you never know though a player can come out of anywhere and shine. i forgot about dwight, but what if next season felton and okafor shine and lead the cats into the playoffs, or a player like tyrus thomas comes and scores 20+ a game, or marvin williams plays up to all that hype, or a player from the 2nd round a few years ago starts to shine like arenas and reed did, and we are still forgetting caron jamison and arenas are a pretty damn good trio
i think you guys are all overrating Dwight. Bosh, Wade and LeBron are the best of the East right now. If anything Gilbert Arenas is #4.
<div class="quote_poster">Lostmyluggage Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If we can get a Pippen equivalent like shawn Marion, then no one is stopping the Cavs any time soon. If Kobe gets traded and my some miracle winds up on the Cavs, then you might as well be prepared for 10+ championships in a row.</div> You don't by any chance write 'The Optimist' column on the Cavs website do you? Because, in all fairness, you're way too optimistic for your own good. First off, the Cavs simply do not possess the trade incentives to score a big name player like Kobe or Marion. The only possible trade incentives won't be viable for at least a season: Ilgauskas and his 2 year contract worth a shade over $20 million, with an option of a further year worth another $11.5 million, Larry Hughes has 3 years left and $28.4 million on his contract, and Eric Snow has 2 years worth $14 million left, too. Then there's Donyell Marshall but, oh wait, he has 2 years left worth a shade under $12 million. Damon Jones, too, has a nice contract to offload, $4 million per year, but he still has another 2 years left. They don't have a draft pick this season, and only have a first in 2008. And next season LeBron's contract kicks in. So cap space will become a thing of the past so, really, the Cavs need to somehow get their hands on a player who might be able to bring in a future draft pick, player in the mould of Shane Battier, but better on offense. The only way the Cavs will be able to get a 'Pippen' for LeBron will be to: a) Get lucky in the 2008 Draft Brainwash another GM to accept Larry Hughes or Ilgauskas in exchange for a star player. c) Sign Pippen. He might be old and not such a good player, but he would still be a 'Pippen' for LeBron. A cr*p one, but still a Pippen.
How are we overrating Howard when we're talking about the future? Dwight is the ideal piece to build a championship contender in the East. Out West, it's going to be Greg Oden. I'm really hoping those teams can put championship caliber role players around them. Oden vs. Howard.
I see a lot of what ifs in this thread, lol...imo while I think Dwight Howard will be very good there is a lot of question marks about his offensive scoring ability (that he has yet to improve on), and Bosh is great and the raptors have a good young core, but I don't see them overtaking a healthy Wade or Bron anytime soon in a series....I'll just put it like this if I were a betting man I'd bet that the Cavs and Heat will be the team more than often coming out of the eastern conference in the next 5 years plus....
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> but what if next season felton and okafor shine and lead the cats into the playoffs, or a player like tyrus thomas comes and scores 20+ a game, or marvin williams plays up to all that hype</div> *dream tries hard to hold back laughter* nah seriously though Okafor and Felton are "nice" players but that's about it and Tyrus Thomas doesn't have the court skills to be a 20 + player in the NBA.
Everyone is forgetting the Bulls. This team is going to be right in the mix for coming out of the East.
Cavs are this year's Miami Heat, beat the Pistons then fall apart due to age. All of the role players around LeBron are getting over the hill except Varejao and Gooden. Pavolic is ok but you need more talent than that to be good. If they want to keep getting better, they need draft picks and they don't have those. They don't have much youth because they've picked quite a few busts that aren't worth jack. The team needs quite of bit to stay on top, the rising team IMO are the Raptors. They're probably the youngest team that has the most talent in the East. Bargnani, Bosh, and the crew are the ones only going to get better, too bad they don't have any draft picks this year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Everyone is forgetting the Bulls. This team is going to be right in the mix for coming out of the East.</div> this is true, but I'm starting to wonder if Heinrich will ever become that player that we all think he can be... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Cavs are this year's Miami Heat, beat the Pistons then fall apart due to age. All of the role players around LeBron are getting over the hill except Varejao and Gooden. Pavolic is ok but you need more talent than that to be good. If they want to keep getting better, they need draft picks and they don't have those. They don't have much youth because they've picked quite a few busts that aren't worth jack. The team needs quite of bit to stay on top, the rising team IMO are the Raptors. They're probably the youngest team that has the most talent in the East. Bargnani, Bosh, and the crew are the ones only going to get better, too bad they don't have any draft picks this year. </div> yes but the Heat have Wade and the Cavs have Bron.....and from the looks of it Gibson is looking like he might be a steal........
