Stephen Jackson, Gerald Wallace on trade block

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2010/12/report-stephen-jackson-gerald-wallce-on-trade-block/ (via Charlotte Observer)

So, what do you guys think? This presents some favorable options for the Warriors depending what the Bobcats want to do. I'm pretty sure the Bobcats are looking for a combination of talent plus salary relief. So, we couldn't just give them Vlad and B. Wright for Gerald Wallace (wouldn't that be nice).

We would have to include Monta and fillers and take on some of their contracts such as:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2bht3p4

I've always liked Gerald Wallace's game. Very aggressive and a difference maker on defense.

Stephen Jackson isn't quite the same, but he adds the playmaking ability that I think the Warriors have lacked this year from a bigger player (I believe Lee is this type of player from the post but wouldn't it be nice to have another guy who can run the pick-n-roll?). I know the thought of Stack Jack in a Warriors uniform may be nauseating to some of you, but the things that he complained about are pretty much moot at this point...totally different team and scenario now.

That being said, he's still a drama queen. I prefer Gerald Wallace.

He can play the 3 and has a lot more size there. Stephen Jackson is really a big 2. Adding Gerald Wallace can move D. Wright to the bench (where I think he belongs) and have Reggie Williams start at 2. Or vice versa, depending on the matchup. I just think D. Wright is a little too slow to play the 2. But that might work too...that's a lot of size and defense on the perimeter.

 

I make the move for Wallace in a heartbeat. He's still young and athletic. And a very nice fit next to Curry. He gets to the line and hustles on both sides of the ball. I think another move still would need to be made pushing Beidrins out. This is the type of move I say that it's ok to move Monta for. An upgrade at a position and also gives depth to the bench. I don't like Reggie starting at the 2, but he has shown that he can at least produce there. Then maybe you can get a solid draft pick at the 2 in the late lottery.

 

I'd go for Wallace, but who do we get to play C if AB gets dealt? Man, I wish we took Joakim Noah, who I was rooting for the W's to pick in 2007, over BWright!

 

I wouldn't do that. No way. I wouldn't want "up in da club" stack jack trying to pop caps in referees behinds and getting arrested and fined and what not.

Now, Wallace, yes, I like his game. A good fit with Curry because of the alley oops and the clean-up stuff... But for Monta? No way. Besides, Wallace plays SF, so without Monta, the SG position basically becomes Reggie Williams and then Reggie Williams off the bench some more. And Wallace would take Dorell Wright's position. Personally, for the cheap $$ he's getting paid, Wright is probably one of the best bargains in the league right now. I want to develop him... not shove him to the bench. Of course, I wouldn't mind prolonging his development for the right piece coming in, but not a Monta+Filler for Wallace deal.

 

Agreed. No way I take Jackson Back. And Agreed, that I don't think Williams is the guy. But I make the Ellis+filler for Wallace deal. You can always pickup a 2 in the off season. Hell, you could sign Larry Hughes is out there on the cheap. If you signed him to a short, vet minimum deal, you'd have a pretty athletic team. Have no clue of all of the cap implications. Don't they have Diaw too? He'd be a nice piece as well.

 

I would package Biedrins for Wallace but not Ellis. And no thanks on Jackson.

 

Who would play C? That's a huge gaping hole at that position. And we're still undersized at the guard positions.

 

yeah, pretty much what BJM said...and how about a little small ball action with curry/monta/wright/wallace/lee hahahah, sorry i won't go there. obviously our need for a center is a priority right now, but I don't think that we would notice that huge of a drop off if we ran with gadz/udoh/amundson instead of andris. as much as i love biedrins, and honestly thought he was our team MVP a couple times in the baron era, he's just the most expendable starter right now. like i said in another thread, i'm sure we could all go out there and make more free throws than he does...that's inexcusable when you're getting paid 8-figures. he just isn't showing enough signs of improvement to earn my confidence.

 

amundson gets the start tonight...i guess see how those three make up for his absence.

 

and he gets two very questionable foul calls off the bat

 

I think Beans was made better by Baron. Baron just had the swagger and toughness that Beans fed off. And Baron was perfect for Beans on the pick-n-roll and alley oop. Those two just had a special chemistry. And Baron was in-shape and motivated. And his type of game suited Beans, because when he got inside, it was contact and toughness, so two guys would collapse on Baron, and even if he shot it, Beans would be free to rebound / tip-dunk.

I'm still glad Baron is gone now. But Monta just doesn't have that. Curry does, but in a different way. He hasn't fused with Beans. Also, his drive is more nifty and clever. He doesn't force major contact like Baron. He doesn't usually get two bodies collapsing on him the way Baron always did.

Anyway, I'm starting to think Beans was the player he was in large part to Baron, and he just needs a certain type of PG to be a good player. Why his blocks are down, though, I have no clue. But he still rebounds well...

 

Interesting takes by AO not getting dub-dubs. I would like to see the ball go to AB just to get him going like what we had to do with Dampier. AB is still rebounding well, but not blocking a lot of shots. I'd like to see more pick and rolls, too. Baron's picking it up again in La-La-land and he's still a strong distributor in short minutes. He's not worth his salary, but he still has flashes of his old self. I can't see Curry ever playing like Baron even with roids (sarcasm). He's more crafty and gets through the seams. Deron Williams is the uber-Baron and w/o the garbage (Baron only has him in the beard department). I'd like to see Curry do what Raymond Felton is doing this year with the Knicks. He's drawing contact and getting to the line a lot more. Curry needs to get his body stronger, so give him time.

 

Well put, he still looks like a kid, which is why he doesn't go full-contact every drive... but he's still pretty tough, and takes his licks and gets right back up... but he will grow up over the next few years. He'll never be a bulky type PG but even Nash got more sinewy and scrappy over the years. I don't want Curry trying to become a power-type PG, that's just not him. But once he starts drawing 2 defenders more often, it will make the bigs (i.e. Beans) look a lot better out there.

 

I don't agree that Biedrins is the problem or a problem. He's the best rebounder on the team. Second best? Jeff Adrien. Third best, Gadz. Then David Lee.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2011.html

 

I think he needs to go back to the old hair-doo