Stephon Marbury says hes the best point guard, Not Kidd

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  1. Gee_Dupe11

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">All week Stephon Marbury promised to be a more aggressive point guard, offensively and defensively. Apparently he intends to be aggressive in answering the media, too.

    Until yesterday Marbury would always say "no comment" whenever Jason Kidd's name was mentioned. However, on the eve of the tonight's New Year's game between the Knicks and the Nets at Madison Square Garden, Marbury said he doesn't compare himself with the Nets' All-Star point guard -- because in his mind, he's the better player.
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    "Don't get me wrong -- I love Jason Kidd. He's a great point guard," Marbury said. "(But) how am I comparing myself to him when I think I'm the best point guard to play basketball? That doesn't make any sense. I mean, how can I sit here and compare myself to somebody if I already think I'm the best?

    "I'm telling you what it is: I know I'm the best point guard in the NBA. I don't need anybody else to tell me that. When I go on the basketball court, if I think about what you're all saying, I'll lose my mind."

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    who Agrees that hes the best
     
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    I do. IMO Kidd has not been playing to his full ability since his knee injury. PLus he's getting kind of old.

    Marbury has the ability to make play and score. Scoring is not part of Kidd's game as much as passing and his ball handling. So i'll have to give the nod to Marbury.
     
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    to me i believe Baron Davis is the best out of both of them. but i believe Marbury is more mature then Baron and Marbury is starting to make his team better and Baron just got back from injury. if Stephon and Baron had the same exact team right now and played each other Baron would out do him but Stephon team will win
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AA13:</div><div class="quote_post">I do. IMO Kidd has not been playing to his full ability since his knee injury. PLus he's getting kind of old.

    Marbury has the ability to make play and score. Scoring is not part of Kidd's game as much as passing and his ball handling. So i'll have to give the nod to Marbury.</div>
    What!!??

    You think that Marbury is the best point guard in the league? Give me a break, a real point guard is a player that creates for others, and runs an offense. This year, the definition of a point guard is Steve Nash.

    He's arguably a top 3 player in the league this year, and it seems to me like he is excelling in his new home. I'm not even going to get into detail of why Marbury isn't the best, because 9/10 people will agree with me.
     
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    Is Marbury on crack? He should say that to the Suns GM who traded his @ss so he could sign Nash in the offseason. And I'm pretty sure Phoenix won't be nearly as good as they are right now had they kept Marbury.

    He's probably one of, if not THE, most athletic point guards in the game, but that doesn't mean he's the best. I would much rather have a pg with a pass-first mentality, great court-vision, and only shoots when necessary.... Nash and Kidd fit that description.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Streetball2k5:</div><div class="quote_post">What!!??

    You think that Marbury is the best point guard in the league? Give me a break, a real point guard is a player that creates for others, and runs an offense. This year, the definition of a point guard is Steve Nash.

    He's arguably a top 3 player in the league this year, and it seems to me like he is excelling in his new home. I'm not even going to get into detail of why Marbury isn't the best, because 9/10 people will agree with me.</div>

    I think Marbury's better thatn Kidd because he can score and be a true point guard. He does run an offense to some extent but when he see's an opening he takes it. Marbury has a scorers mentality as well as the mindset that he trusts his teammates and will get them the ball.

    I 110% agree with the Steve Nash comments. [​IMG] He is doing great in his new home, and is a true old school point guard that runs the offense and is more concerned about getting his teammates the ball than his own scoring. I agree with you that he is arguably in the top 3 players of the leauge as of right now. The little Hosier. [​IMG]
     
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    Steve Nash, Dwyane Wade, and Stephon Marubry are currently the NBA's best Point Guards (in order also).
     
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    <u>Best Point Guards</u>
    1. Steve Nash
    2. Stephon Marbury
    3. Steve Francis
    4. Jason Kidd
    5. Baron Davis

    Those are just the top PG's off the top of my head.
     
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    my top 5
    1) jason kidd (when healthy)
    2) steve nash (he's too much of a defensive liability)
    3) starberry (shot happy at times)
    4) steve francis (more of a combo guard than a pure point)
    5) mike bibby (great clutch shooter)
     
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    I don't think there is any way that Marbury is a better point guard than Jason Kidd. Note, I don't say player or athlete, but point guard. Marbury is a much better scorer, and probably the better athlete. He is also much younger, which many would consider a huge advantage. But, as for saying he is a better point guard than Kidd, that is just ridiculous. I would say if anyone could even come close to be a better passer than Kidd, it wouldn't be Marbury, but it would be Steve Nash. Kidd probably has the best court vision in the League right now, and has some of the best passing skills this League has ever seen.

    As for best real point guards in the League, that are willing to pass it up before they shoot, here is what I would say:

    Steve Nash
    Jason Kidd
    Steve Francis
    Mike Bibby
    Stephon Marbury

    Also, I don't know why everyone is so high on Baron Davis as a point guard. He is only averaging 6.2 assists per game this year, and has a terrible three point percentage. He would jack up a three before dishing it down low any day. I guess I just never have liked him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure:</div><div class="quote_post">

    Also, I don't know why everyone is so high on Baron Davis as a point guard. He is only averaging 6.2 assists per game this year, and has a terrible three point percentage. He would jack up a three before dishing it down low any day. I guess I just never have liked him.</div>

    yeah baron is a product of the nba hype machine,but he's never been out of the the first round in the east. remember many experts believed some of the hornets teams of the past few years were capable of winning the east with all their size. plus, he's injury prone because of his history of weight problems.
     
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    Wow, this man is arrogant.
    1) Kidd - So what if he's not playing at his best right now. He's still the best - it's documented.
    2) Nash - Look at the Sun's record last year and look at it this year.
    3) Francis - Look at his team's record right now, and look at Marbury's.
    4) Bibby - He's always lead his team to a more successful campaign every season than Marbury.
    5) Arenas - Same case as Francis.
    6) Billups - Finals MVP
    7) Davis - When he's at his best, he's way better than Marbury, but too bad he was injured this year.
    8) Tinsley - Same case as Francis. Plus, he's a more "true" point guard than Marbury.
    9) Cassell - When he's at his best, he's dominant as he can actually help his team go far into the playoffs even at 35.
    10) Knight - If he wasn't on the team, the inaugural Bobcats wouldn't even had a single win this season so far.
    11) Parker - A huge factor in winning the Spurs' 2nd championship.
    12) Marbury - Dead last [​IMG]
    *If Wade and Iverson are considered point guards, then they would definitely be ahead of Marbury.

    I was surprised when the Knicks didn't even consider trading Marbury for Carter during the period Carter wanted out.
     
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    No love for Brevin Knight? Amazing how his passing skills can't be noticed because he can't score 20 PPG.
     
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    I have a lot of respect for the underrated point guards, two that come to mind: Brevin Knight and Jamaal Tinsley. Both of them are top ten in the League for assists per game, in fact Knight is only behind Nash.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">
    I was surprised when the Knicks didn't even consider trading Marbury for Carter during the period Carter wanted out.</div>

    Maybe it's because they don't need another shooting guard. Because, you know, they only have Crawford, Penny, Houston, etc. Yea, that could be why. That and he is the teams point guard and the big reason why they are winning. Adding Carter would have messed up the teams chemistry and would have gave them another shooting guard which they don't need.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">No love for Brevin Knight? Amazing how his passing skills can't be noticed because he can't score 20 PPG.</div>

    He has great passing skills and he can make great steals nut he isn't even close to one of the best in the league. There is the best like I listed above. Then there is the second tier of PG's including Mike Bibby, Jamal Tinsley, Tony Parker, Chauncy Billups and Gilbert Arenas. Then there are a couple of good SG's that have been converted to PG's like Allen Iverson and Dwyane Wade. Brevin Knight isn't on any of these players levels IMO.
     
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    This should be the top 3 of POINT GUARDS in order this season

    1.Steve Nash
    2.Allen Iverson/Dwayn Wade
    3.Steve Francis
    OK i know there's four players but you get my point
     
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    I do not see Ai and Dwyane wade as true point guards. I like the names and general order of Chungster's list.


    But, Marbury has a cock y attitude andthe same swagger, he has to, and its expected(or atleast IMO) that MArbury thinks he is the best PG in the league. I see no problem with these comments.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">Wow, this man is arrogant.
    1) Kidd - So what if he's not playing at his best right now. He's still the best - it's documented.
    2) Nash - Look at the Sun's record last year and look at it this year.
    3) Francis - Look at his team's record right now, and look at Marbury's.
    4) Bibby - He's always lead his team to a more successful campaign every season than Marbury.
    5) Arenas - Same case as Francis.
    6) Billups - Finals MVP
    7) Davis - When he's at his best, he's way better than Marbury, but too bad he was injured this year.
    8) Tinsley - Same case as Francis. Plus, he's a more "true" point guard than Marbury.
    9) Cassell - When he's at his best, he's dominant as he can actually help his team go far into the playoffs even at 35.
    10) Knight - If he wasn't on the team, the inaugural Bobcats wouldn't even had a single win this season so far.
    11) Parker - A huge factor in winning the Spurs' 2nd championship.
    12) Marbury - Dead last [​IMG]</div>
    ummm, you do realize that the Knicks have an almost identical record as both the Magic and Wizards (they were actually even better than the Wiz prior to their game that just finished a while ago)....

    Marbury isn't the best in the league as he has stated.... but don't you think 12th is a little too harsh? The past two seasons he has been averaging close to 9 assists per game and he is 3rd in the nba in apg this season.
     
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    I agree, he isn't the best point guard, but ranking him below Brevin Knight, Tony Parker, Jamaal Tinsley, and Baron Davis is going too far. Sure, he is not the prototype point guard, pass first, shoot later, but he is still averaging 8.6 assists per game, which is third in the League.
     

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