righ now its Nash of course, but career wise its Jason, but if Steve continues to play the same way just for a few more seasons, I will go with Nash.
Jason Kidd career-wise because he gave you rebounds, assists, and above all, defense. Right now Steve Nash is amazing with the Suns.
Jason Kidd. He's better all-around. He's just as good of a passer as Nash, but he can play defense, and rebound. He's a triple-double machine. Yes, Nash has MVP awards, but Kidd has made the Finals with a less talented team than Nash's Suns.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrizzFanTaylor @ Jun 23 2007, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jason Kidd. He's better all-around. He's just as good of a passer as Nash, but he can play defense, and rebound. He's a triple-double machine. Yes, Nash has MVP awards, but Kidd has made the Finals with a less talented team than Nash's Suns.</div>Also in a less talented conference. Nash has lost to the best teams 3-4 times just like Kidd did twice. If he was in the East he also would've made it to the Finals and lost to the best team. I don't think Kidd has ever won even 1 series in the West in his entire career. The only time the Suns moved on was when he was injured and KJ came back from retirement. Nash is also a much, much better shooter/scorer than Kidd and also a better clutch player while Kidd throws up bricks in crunch time and relies on Vince to win it for them. Even with his passing and defense Kidd really pissed me off at the end of games. That's why I overrate Marbury sometimes, because when we got him we actually had someone who won us games in the end even though Kidd was better. Nash has won the MVP's while Kidd hasn't even been in the discussion for even top 10. He has been better recently, but yeah I'd put Kidd ahead of him all-time until Nash can win a championship and can keep this up for 2 or 3 more years. Oh no, I've been sucked in.But yeah, my point was...you can't use Kidd's appearances in the Finals at all. Nash has been a better player in the playoffs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Jun 23 2007, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nash has won the MVP's while Kidd hasn't even been in the discussion for even top 10.</div>If I remember correctly, didn't Kidd come in 2nd his first season with the Nets in 2003? And, it was a very close second. Many thought he should have won the MVP award.
I meant recently while Nash is doing this. I did say Kidd has been the better point guard all time for a reason. Nash still has a ways to go before I'd put him over kidd on the all-time PG list.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Jun 23 2007, 01:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I meant recently while Nash is doing this. I did say Kidd has been the better point guard all time for a reason. Nash still has a ways to go before I'd put him over kidd on the all-time PG list.</div>Yeah, well I was referring to all-time, in which Kidd is better. But currently, you're right Nash is better. Nash is in his prime while Kidd is falling away a little bit.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Jun 23 2007, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think Kidd has ever won even 1 series in the West in his entire career.</div>The Jason Kidd led Suns won 5 playoff games in his 5 years with the team.97: 2-398: 1-399: 0-300: 1-401: 1-3
And he had a few 50+ win teams too right? They had some 4 seed teams that couldn't get out of the first round.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Jun 23 2007, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And he had a few 50+ win teams too right? They had some 4 seed teams that couldn't get out of the first round.</div>96-97: 40-42 #7 seed(lost 1st round to Sonics 2-3)97-98: 56-26 #4 seed (lost 1st round to Spurs 1-3)98-99: 27-23 #7 seed (lost 1st round to Blazers 0-3)99-00: 53-29 #5 seed (lost 2nd round to Lakers 1-4)* Kidd did not play in the 1st round against the Spurs00-01: 51-31 #6 seed (lost 1st round to Kings 1-3)
I feel Kidd is the better all-around player, but I'd still take Nash. I don't really care if my point guard defends. I want him to run my offense. Nobody does that better than Nash.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NYK @ Jun 23 2007, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nash kills Kidd!!!Nash can score whenever he wants to!!</div>I love it. :happy0144: Guys like you are why I never get bothered with Suns haters anymore. I know it balances out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Jun 24 2007, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I love it. :happy0144: Guys like you are why I never get bothered with Suns haters anymore. I know it balances out. </div>Nash haters are, for some reason, Kobe/Laker fans. Haters in general are typically Kobe/Laker fans. Guess it says something about the personality you have to have to root for Kobe.
I love Kobe and even though lakers always lose to the suns I respect The whole suns team. Especially amere, NASH, Bell, Barbosa. The thing I hate about the suns is THERE REFS AND THE LAKER'S REFS!!!
