Still believe that old BS that feminists have no sense of humor?

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  1. crandc

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    An exception doesn't break the rule ... :wink:
     
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    I'll say that next time a man says something intelligent...
     
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    ohhh snap
     
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    sexist!!!
     
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    Being an unintelligent male, I don't see what was so reprehensible about Alan Simpson's letter. Could someone explain this to me?
     
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    Your post illustrates that NOLW doesn't have a sense of humor. Help me out here? How is this offensive?

    Is NOLW (National Organization for Liberal Women) advancing the idea that women are cows? I guess that is unintentionally funny, at best, or insulting to women, at worst. Or is this a mistake, and it is actual the National Organization for Cows that is upset?
     
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    Platypus, I'd suggest you go back to the original story.
     
  9. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    OK--in the link you provided, the line "a milk cow with 310 million tits" hyperlinked to the Washington Post's September 5th, article (editorial) about the remarks. Having read it, I still don't understand how anything he said was resignation-worthy. Can you please provide me with your perspective as to why his remarks are considered so offensive?
     
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    Well, after reading the article I'd still say NOW has no sense of humor or respect.

    Nothing new in this world, is there?

    People in a 100% self serving special interest group that all too frequently ignores the needs of those they claim to be for if they are not of their political persuasion again making ASSumptions (sorry, couldn't help myself) and again missing the mark.

    This is why the vast vast majority of special interest groups, lefty or righty, fail.

    Kudos to cradc for pointing it out. Rep'd!
     
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    No, she can't, but feminists are obvious HIIIIIII-larious. Seems to me that Simpson was merely quoting an author's view of the government.
     
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    Ok. Simpson is co-chair of the commission on Social Security. He had suggested that either benefits be reduced or the retirement age raised. This is not new for him; Simpson has been hostile to Social Security for some time. The executive director of the Older Women's League wrote to him on behalf of the organization. She explained that either cutting benefits or raising the retirement age would have especially devastating consequences for many older women. She explained how women generally receive lower benefits than men, since women have been and still are paid less and are more likely to lose work years in child rearing, and how women are less likely than men to receive private pensions, 401(k), etc. from their workplace. That older women have an even harder time than older men trying to return to the workforce. She also questioned whether it was necessary to reduce benefits/raise retirement age.

    So, she wrote a serious letter on a serious subject.

    Simpson could have disagreed and written a courteous letter explaining why he disagreed. Instead he wrote a very rude letter, suggesting she was incapable of understanding the math, saying that seniors using Social Security are essentially freeloaders (that's where the milk cow with 310 million tits came from), used derogatory language, and finally suggested the members of her group should just go out and get jobs - because in a recession companies are dying to hire 70 year old ladies. He refused to respond to subsequent attempts by the Older Women's League to meet with him to raise their concerns.

    So that's the genesis of the story. The group and others called for his resignation, not simply because they agreed, but because of his rude and offensive behavior to a genuine concern of citizens and his refusal to even discuss the matter.
     
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    There's never a time to be rude, but if congressmen resigned for being rude we'd have about 3 senators and 4 representatives right now.

    As for the Social Security aspect, I didn't see a willingness on the part of the detractors (from the article, the editorial or what you just wrote) to attempt to debate the issue. Amazingly enough, do you think that the co-Chairman of the Social Security committee might have some semblance of an idea of the problems affecting Social Security? One of which is that THIS YEAR it's almost 40% overrunning its budget? I didn't hear a single one say "that sounds like a good plan...maybe you could put some protection in for people who are already past prime earning years" or anything like that. It became "nanny-nanny, this guy's a meany so we'll twist "Teats" and "boob (fool)" into sexual innuendo and call for his resignation." Classy move from a bunch of concerned ladies and an editorialist.
     
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    Interesting--thank you for the additional information.

    It certainly appears the media has done NOW a disservice by ridiculously oversimplifying the story to nothing more than a splashy headline. Based on the most readily-publicized information, the stories make NOW look petty; only if one were to have the inclination to dig into the details (which you have kindly provided us) does one get a better picture of the true events. I've got to say though, while the 1,500 nipple delivery was a creative way to get an audience with Simpson, it did seem to put more emphasis on the single quote than on the crux of the issue.

    Out of curiosity, do you think that NOW's efforts here had an overall beneficial impact on this particular cause?
     
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    Actually, the editorialist is firmly on Simpson's side here (at least he certainly was in the other editorial I linked to from 9/5). I think he was just poking fun at the coincidental word choice.
     
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    Harry Reid called Kirsten Gillibrand the "hottest member of the Senate" last week.

    I must have missed NOLW's outrage over that sexist comment. Gee, I wonder why?

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/sen_reid_calls_sen_gillibrand_senate_nMGvwH9D35aucEqefNKeZN


     
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    Shame on Fox news for describing her as a "mother of two", rather than focusing on her securities law expertise. I didn't see them say "Father of four Harry Reid"...
     
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    If they had a sense of humor that wouldn't have come up with this campaign in the first place.
     
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    NOW never attacks their own- no matter what they may do. It's like when the ACLU was asked to represent a graduate from a Christian HS who was denied admission to a college (or maybe it was a specific degree program) due to his faith. The ACLU was very clear they do not assist those who may appear to be on the 'right' or of Christian faith. Both are 100% self serving for their side of the isle only. It's disingenuous. But, special interest groupls on the right do the same thing.
     
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    I just did an image google for her. Harry was right- she is pretty hot for a US Senator. I wonder if she's a cougar. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..............
     

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