This is the Pistons vs. Bulls debate. Please don't post here until we are done, because I'll delete your posts :cry2: . We will need voters also.Offense:The Pistons offense is led by their backcourt of Chauncey Billups and Richard Hamilton, the most compatible backcourt in the league. Chauncey Billups was in the running for MVP last year, with his silky smooth shot and his wise timely decisions with the rock. Richard Hamilton is the king of the midrange shot, and his speed wears out opponets quickly. Rip can hit the three, he led the league in three point percentage last year. After their guards, they have Tayshaun Prince, the only '05-'06 starter to not make the All-Star team last year and capable point guard, Rasheed Wallace, a big fella who is capable of draining every three he shoots and can drop 20 each night if he has to, and Nazr Mohammed, Ben's replacement who will score more and is a above-average offensive rebounder. This team will rely on the three pointer, as the four returning starters can shoot lightsout, but can drive when necessary. The bench is led by Antonio McDyess, and was revamped over the offseason, with Flip Murray and Ronald Dupree joining the mix. Antonio McDyess pounds the ball inside and gets the garbage points Detroit was known for when they won the title in 2004. Flip Murray brings heaps of energy when he plays and can score in bunches, and Ronald Murray is a great role player who can drain the midrange often. Lindsey Hunter is back, and can score the three constantly, and is an awesome floor general. Dale Davis is back as the backup center, and is a solid big man who can score some garbage baskets as well. Scoring is the strong point for Carlos Delfino and Amir Johnson, on the third line. Coach Flip Saunders is offensively minded, so the Pistons are set here.Bulls Defense: Kirk Hinrich and Ben Gordon are not great defenders. Billups and Hamilton should have no problem scoring on these guards. Chris Duhon is decent, but the Pistons will shoot and shoot over the Bulls. Andres Nocioni isn't much of a defender either, but Luol Deng is a hustler, and might be able to stop Tayshaun. Tyrus Thomas and PJ Brown both can block pretty well. Ty Thomas is very athletic and can guard out of the post, but PJ is mostly a post defender. The Pistons are a shooting team. Finally, the key to the Bulls defense, Ben Wallace. He will remain a top notch defender down low, not only getting blocks and rebounds, but getting a decent amount of steals and loose balls. Still, there are too many options on the Pistons offense.Defense:The Pistons are specifically known for their defense. Chauncey Billups, Lindsey Hunter, and Tayshaun Prince are a few of the best defenders in the game. And although they lost Ben Wallace to the Bulls, they still have Nazr Mohammed, a solid replacement on the defensive side. Kobe Bryant and other league superstars say that Lindsey Hunter is the best man to man defender in the game. Flip Murray is a big improvement off the bench, and Richard Hamilton is very underrated defensively. The Pistons have a lot of big bodies on defense, which is crucial to win. Rasheed, Nazr, and McDyess are not really stellar defenders, but they use their body and are effective at stopping the other team. Rasheed, Tayshaun, and McDyess are especially good at getting blocks, which can change the momentum of the game, as Ben Wallace often did for Detroit. Jason Maxiel, who will finally be getting quality minutes, has proven in the pre-season that he is defensively solid, and a great rebounder.Bulls Offense: They are a stellar shooting team too, but the Pistons have good perimeter defenders though. Hunter, Billups, and Prince will stop Ben Gordon, Kirk Hinrich, and Andres Nocioni from firing threes. Ben Wallace has never been a liability on offense, with Detroit or Chicago. Tyrus Thomas is raw and can't be relied on yet. PJ Brown is a workhorse player, but he can be stopped by Rasheed or McDyess.Head to Head:PG Matchup-Chauncey Billups & Lindsey Hunter vs. Kirk Hinrich & Chris Duhon<u>Pistons win.</u> Billups is an MVP candidate, and Hunter, according to KB24, is the best man to man defender in the league. Hinrich is great and Duhon is one of the best second-unit point guards, but they don't beat the Pistons point guards.SG Matchup-Rip Hamilton & Flip Murray vs. Ben Gordon & Adrian Griffen<u>Pistons win.</u> Ben Gordon is very overrated at times, and even though Adrian Griffen is a pretty good defender, the defense the Pistons two-guards bring is too dominant.SF Matchup-Tayshaun Prince & Ronald Dupree vs. Luol Deng & Andres Nocioni<u>Bulls win.</u> I'll give it to them, Tayshaun is a deservant All-Star and a dominant defender, but Noc averaged 20 and 10 in the playoffs, and Luol Deng is a excellent athlete.PF Matchup-Rasheed Wallace & Antonio McDyess vs. PJ Brown & Tyrus Thomas<u>Pistons win.</u> Rasheed is a star, and McDyess is a 6th man of the year candidate. PJ Brown is still effective for his team, but Tyrus Thomas is young, and won't do anything big for Chicago this year. He'll have the same role as Gerald Green did for Boston, or Marvin Williams did for Atlanta, and they hardly played any valuable minutes.C Matchup-Nazr Mohammed & Dale Davs vs Ben Wallace & Micheal Sweetney<u>Bulls Win.</u> Nazr Mohammed is pretty underrated, a solid contributor on both ends, but Ben's defense and rebounding makes him a top 5 center, and you cannot argue that.The Pistons are better overall, and could win a 7 game series.
My vote goes to Rashad... I think he owned you in this one SunnyD. Anyway, back to being serious, I don't think he's been on in forever though...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SunnyD @ Oct 27 2006, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is the Pistons vs. Bulls debate. Please don't post here until we are done, because I'll delete your posts :cry2: . We will need voters also.Offense:The Pistons offense is led by their backcourt of Chauncey Billups and Richard Hamilton, the most compatible backcourt in the league. Chauncey Billups was in the running for MVP last year, with his silky smooth shot and his wise timely decisions with the rock. Richard Hamilton is the king of the midrange shot, and his speed wears out opponets quickly. Rip can hit the three, he led the league in three point percentage last year. After their guards, they have Tayshaun Prince, the only '05-'06 starter to not make the All-Star team last year and capable point guard, Rasheed Wallace, a big fella who is capable of draining every three he shoots and can drop 20 each night if he has to, and Nazr Mohammed, Ben's replacement who will score more and is a above-average offensive rebounder. This team will rely on the three pointer, as the four returning starters can shoot lightsout, but can drive when necessary. The bench is led by Antonio McDyess, and was revamped over the offseason, with Flip Murray and Ronald Dupree joining the mix. Antonio McDyess pounds the ball inside and gets the garbage points Detroit was known for when they won the title in 2004. Flip Murray brings heaps of energy when he plays and can score in bunches, and Ronald Murray is a great role player who can drain the midrange often. Lindsey Hunter is back, and can score the three constantly, and is an awesome floor general. Dale Davis is back as the backup center, and is a solid big man who can score some garbage baskets as well. Scoring is the strong point for Carlos Delfino and Amir Johnson, on the third line. Coach Flip Saunders is offensively minded, so the Pistons are set here.Bulls Defense: Kirk Hinrich and Ben Gordon are not great defenders. Billups and Hamilton should have no problem scoring on these guards. Chris Duhon is decent, but the Pistons will shoot and shoot over the Bulls. Andres Nocioni isn't much of a defender either, but Luol Deng is a hustler, and might be able to stop Tayshaun. Tyrus Thomas and PJ Brown both can block pretty well. Ty Thomas is very athletic and can guard out of the post, but PJ is mostly a post defender. The Pistons are a shooting team. Finally, the key to the Bulls defense, Ben Wallace. He will remain a top notch defender down low, not only getting blocks and rebounds, but getting a decent amount of steals and loose balls. Still, there are too many options on the Pistons offense.Defense:The Pistons are specifically known for their defense. Chauncey Billups, Lindsey Hunter, and Tayshaun Prince are a few of the best defenders in the game. And although they lost Ben Wallace to the Bulls, they still have Nazr Mohammed, a solid replacement on the defensive side. Kobe Bryant and other league superstars say that Lindsey Hunter is the best man to man defender in the game. Flip Murray is a big improvement off the bench, and Richard Hamilton is very underrated defensively. The Pistons have a lot of big bodies on defense, which is crucial to win. Rasheed, Nazr, and McDyess are not really stellar defenders, but they use their body and are effective at stopping the other team. Rasheed, Tayshaun, and McDyess are especially good at getting blocks, which can change the momentum of the game, as Ben Wallace often did for Detroit. Jason Maxiel, who will finally be getting quality minutes, has proven in the pre-season that he is defensively solid, and a great rebounder.Bulls Offense: They are a stellar shooting team too, but the Pistons have good perimeter defenders though. Hunter, Billups, and Prince will stop Ben Gordon, Kirk Hinrich, and Andres Nocioni from firing threes. Ben Wallace has never been a liability on offense, with Detroit or Chicago. Tyrus Thomas is raw and can't be relied on yet. PJ Brown is a workhorse player, but he can be stopped by Rasheed or McDyess.Head to Head:PG Matchup-Chauncey Billups & Lindsey Hunter vs. Kirk Hinrich & Chris Duhon<u>Pistons win.</u> Billups is an MVP candidate, and Hunter, according to KB24, is the best man to man defender in the league. Hinrich is great and Duhon is one of the best second-unit point guards, but they don't beat the Pistons point guards.SG Matchup-Rip Hamilton & Flip Murray vs. Ben Gordon & Adrian Griffen<u>Pistons win.</u> Ben Gordon is very overrated at times, and even though Adrian Griffen is a pretty good defender, the defense the Pistons two-guards bring is too dominant.SF Matchup-Tayshaun Prince & Ronald Dupree vs. Luol Deng & Andres Nocioni<u>Bulls win.</u> I'll give it to them, Tayshaun is a deservant All-Star and a dominant defender, but Noc averaged 20 and 10 in the playoffs, and Luol Deng is a excellent athlete.PF Matchup-Rasheed Wallace & Antonio McDyess vs. PJ Brown & Tyrus Thomas<u>Pistons win.</u> Rasheed is a star, and McDyess is a 6th man of the year candidate. PJ Brown is still effective for his team, but Tyrus Thomas is young, and won't do anything big for Chicago this year. He'll have the same role as Gerald Green did for Boston, or Marvin Williams did for Atlanta, and they hardly played any valuable minutes.C Matchup-Nazr Mohammed & Dale Davs vs Ben Wallace & Micheal Sweetney<u>Bulls Win.</u> Nazr Mohammed is pretty underrated, a solid contributor on both ends, but Ben's defense and rebounding makes him a top 5 center, and you cannot argue that.The Pistons are better overall, and could win a 7 game series.</div>Good write up their Sunny, looks like you took your time on it.
Sorry, I did not see the topic until today. I will post my reply after the Bulls/Heat game.<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#FF0000">GO BULLS!</span></span>
I would LOVE to jump in with SunnyD. I think we should ahve like a 3 on 3 debate or something with Bulls/Pistons. SunnyD, Reppin and I would take on anyone.
Anybody at all. Come on, Celtic, Laker, or MAVS FANS!<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Oct 30 2006, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Good write up their Sunny, looks like you took your time on it.</div>Thanks, I wrote part of it about a week ago, and finished it up on the 30th.
If it's 3 on 3 I'd love to take the Pistons but if not we can have a 2 on 2 and I'll be for the Bulls.
Ok McCantz, don't worry about this debate. I thought you wanted to, but looks like someones chickening out.How would we do Pistons vs. Lakers? Pistons are obviously the better team...
