Politics Supreme Court decides federal judges cannot block gerrymandering

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Fucking Republicans....gotta keep the maps in their favor huh
     
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    According to the article, there were two cases under consideration, one benefitting the Republicans and one benefitting the Democrats:

    "The two cases came from North Carolina and Maryland. In North Carolina, Democratic voters alleged that a map drawn by the GOP legislature in 2016 unfairly benefited Republicans.

    In Maryland, it was Republicans who challenged the map, saying that one congressional district drawn in 2011 was unfairly tilted in favor of the Democrats.

    In both cases, those behind the maps admitted that they were drawn to benefit their party."
     
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    Fuck gerrymandering all together. The supreme court should have done something about it. The conservative judges didn't want too.
     
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    Just have to change the name to jeriwomandering and the Republicans will be against it.
     
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    And Trump will be curiously turned on by it, but confused as to where to grab it.
     
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    Once again 4 activist judges try to distort the SCOTUS into a political weapon for their own extremist views. The majority rightfully dismissed the outrageous attempt to circumvent the Constitution.
     
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    Don't really understand why states' rights is a conservative/liberal thing.
     
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    Incorrect
     
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    Yes you do.

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    You overestimate me
     
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    That is simply not possible.

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    Really? You joking? Sarcasm?

    Because of politics. Because of power. States are either controlled by conseratives or by liberals. It's become about keeping that power at all costs. Hence gerrymandering.
     
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    I understand gerrymandering. I understand how conservatives (mostly) and liberals (occasionally) use it to keep power. I understand why it's undesirable.

    What I don't understand is why the belief on whether the federal government has a right to tell states how they should do things (like determine their states' representatives) is a conservative/liberal issue. The question just doesn't seem to logically fit into either the fiscal or social divides between the two parties.
     
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    Wow!
    I was just about to post my dismay over people objecting to the courts ruling. Then I read you're response, almost exactly my take.
    I will just add, I find the court to be quite honest in their conclusion. They can find no Constitutional support for them to take a side. While I would like gerrymandering ended, the last done in Oregon is appalling, I don't see Congress ever being able to write
    and offer a Constitutional amendment to end the dang practice. And if they did, it would not be enforceable without endlessly going to court.
     
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    By logical deduction, I would imagine.
     
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    Whoops. I know you wouldn't mislead anyone, but I also know you probably are not old enough to remember the last time conservative gerrymandering this state. I do not.
    The last time it was done, is what we have today. It gave the Senate to the Dems. So I must object to the the assertion that it is mostly conservatives that do this shit. Actually I don't think it is even consistent with the way most conservatives think.
     
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    I wasn't talking about Oregon specifically. Generally when I hear about gerrymandering issues in other states, it involves conservative lawmakers redrawing districts to isolate minorities, which is why I said what I said. It's just my perception, flawed as it may be. However, I'd freely retract my claim given data to the contrary, if such exists.
     
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    Well, I don't know for sure, but it seems to me, some time the purpose is to intentional isolate minorities to enhance the probability of electing a minority in that district. Probably not conservatives doing this. Then one has to keep in mind that Republicans are not always conservatives. Some are Republicans to get elected, then vote like democrats.
     

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