The Nuggets are the NBA's most confused team right now. The lineup has changed so many times over the past three weeks due to multiple injuries, the two huge suspensions, and the Iverson for Miller trade, that it has been impossible to establish dependable plays for the offense, plays where everyone is on the same page. The guy with the ball is supposed to be familiar with where everyone usually is on the court, and to know where everyone on the court likes to run a play from. More generally, no one knows what their role is. How does a running team succeed when who runs where and when is not worked out? It doesn't. Tonight's 22 turnovers shows how confused the Nuggets are right now. The coaching staff can only reduce the confusion; there is going to be alot of confusion on this team until about the end of February. Nuggets fans can be happy, though, that the season is long, so that the confusion should be over weeks before the playoffs start. The Nuggets are now like a pick-up neighborhood team having to play professional teams whose roster has not changed much. The continuing Nene knee saga and the Camby injury has been adding alot to the confusing mess that has been the Nugget's roster, as has Iverson's complicated calculation as to what role to play during the suspensions. Iverson is clearly trying to avoid taking too many shots, because he has decided that his reasonable role on the full roster is as a more traditional point guard, not as someone who has to take 30 shots as the only chance to win games. Trouble is, some of these games during the suspensions may be winnable ONLY if Iverson in fact does take 30 shots. Iverson had two technical fouls in tonight's miserable loss, the last one when the game was all but over with less than two minutes to play. I'm thinking his frustration was partly that he realized, at about that time, when it was too late, that his putting 30 shots up might have changed the outcome. The suspensions to Melo and J.R. Smith are now threatening to take a much larger toll than many thought when Iverson arrived on the team, because of the large scale confusion on the court regarding who is doing what when. There are some second team players who are trying to make up a starting role for themselves as they go along, almost always unsuccessfully. George Karl is very stingy with playing time for unproven second teamers, so a player like DerMarr Johnson(GF) does not have the recent playing time experience to be able to produce reliably in these suspension games. He was 3/7, and 0/4 on 3's, and 2/2 from the line for 8 points in 30 minutes. Diawara(GF) has been on an extreme rollercoaster as George Karl has no alternative but to play the rookie major minutes. One game he can't hit the side of the barn, and the next game he is almost at a starter level. Tonight he was 8/16, and a huge 5/10 from 3 point land, and 2/2 from the line, for 23 points. He did his best on defense and had 6 rebounds and 5 personal fouls. All this after he had 1 point in 40 minutes on Sunday night. Diawara's yo-yo performances clearly show the turmoil the Nuggets are in. Kleiza played 15 minutes, and was 2/7, and 0/2 on 3's and 2/2 from the line for 6 points, and he had 1 rebound. Evans had just 12 minutes, and he was 0/5, and 2/6 from the line for 2 points, but he had 9 rebounds. Najera continued to confound Nuggets fans with his overly cautious approach to the suspension games. After being more assertive on Sunday night, he fell right back into near invisibility tonight. He was just 2/4 and 3/6 from the line for 7 points, and he had 6 rebounds. The Nuggets have a weakness at power forward. Najera is too cautious about both scoring and rebounding. Evans is a rebounding machine, and he wants to score more than anything but, not only does he have trouble from time to time even from short range, but even his free throw shooting is in need of serious work. If you are George Karl, you have a dilemma at power forward. I guess his strategy is the best one, you just split the playing time almost down the middle and keep your fingers crossed. Tonight shows what happens when you get the weaknesses of both players on the same night: a disaster at power forward. Boykins was 5/14, and 3/7 on 3's for 13 points, and he had 6 assists and 3 rebounds. Camby started his second game after being out from the finger injury, but he has not yet reestablished the shooting touch that he had worked hard to get before the injury. Either he is still bothered by the finger, or he has yet to reestablish that part of his game, or else he has been preoccuped as the only defensive specialist on the Nuggets over the last two games. Due to some combination of those 3 factors, he was unable to score more than 8 points against the 76'ers. But with the deck on fire and everyone heading for the life boats, Camby was the only stable force on the Nuggets left, as he produced another all-star quality game on defense, with 16 rebounds, 2 steals, and a massive 7 blocks. Iverson was under all kinds of pressure tonight. Aside from his dilemma about how many trips to the hoop and how many shots in general to take himself, as discussed earlier, he also had to play his recent teammates for the first time tonight, still being frustrated that the Sixers refused him any opportunity to give his input regarding how the Sixers should play and proceed as a franchise. Unlike, say, Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan, Iverson had nobody in the Sixers organization who would listen to his advice. So when the Sixers coaches appeared on his new home court, it was kind of like the relatives you hate the most coming for the holiday and staying too long. A.I, with some of his rocket boosters still left unfired, was 10/24, 2/6 from downtown, and 8/10 from the line for 30 points, and he had 9 assists and 5 rebounds. But he also had 7 of the Nugget's turnovers. It is scary to think that the wins against the Celtics and the Sonics were at least partly due to luck: both of those squads were depleted and the games were played in Denver. That has held the suspension toll to two games so far, whereas it could have easily been 3 or 4 with more to come. <u>SUSPENSION GAMES</u> Wizards WIN Kings LOSS Celtics WIN Sonics WIN AT Hornets LOSS Mavericks LOSS 76'ers LOSS <u>SUSPENSION GAMES STILL TO COME</u> AT Clippers Jazz Bucks Spurs Rockets AT Trailblazers Cavaliers AT Rockets <u>MOST PROBABLE RESULTS WITH NO SUSPENSIONS & NO IVERSON</u> Wizards loss Kings win Celtics win Sonics win AT Hornets win Mavericks loss 76'ers win So the Nuggets are 3-4 in suspension games but most likely would have been 5-2 had there been no suspensions and no Iverson. So the suspensions have probably cost the Nuggets two games so far. In order to avoid serious suspension damage, Iverson, Camby and the roll of the dice second teamers need to produce a win this Friday night against the Lakers in Los Angeles. Iverson may feel the need to "take over the game" this Friday now that the full extent of the suspension nightmare is apparent, and we can only hope that he has the touch and avoids the high turnover count he had tonight. So the next game is Friday, Jan 5 at 8:30 pm mountain time in L.A. versus the Lakers. ALL-STAR CENTER MARCUS CAMBY WITH ONE OF 7 BLOCKS IF YOU HAVE TO BET, ALWAYS BET CAMBY WILL GET THE LOOSE BALL ALL-STAR CENTER MARCUS CAMBY YAKHOUBA DIAWARA: IF HE PLAYS LIKE HE DID TONIGHT EVERY NIGHT HE GETS TO BE A REAL STARTER A.I DID NOT FIRE UP ALL THE ROCKET BOOSTERS TONIGHT NO ONE, INCLUDING A.I. HAS EVEN A CLUE AS TO WHERE ANYONE IS ON THE COURT A.I. AND THE SUSPENSION BLUES: THE NUGGETS SHOULD PLAY IN MISSISSIPPI DURING THE SUSPENSIONS THE COACH HAS A MAJOR CASE OF SUSPENSION BLUES
Yes, I said it last time already... tough stretch for the Nuggets coming up, but I think that the team will get more consistent much sooner than the "end of February". They can't quit playing, they just have to try their best and may not lose their spirit playing through a rough time time. BTW, would have preferred Iverson shooting only against his former team/coach on the court, and not with words before the game.
Excuses, excuses. Philly outplayed Denver, period. Would the game have been different if Denver was at full strengh? Sure, but they weren't so quit the damn suspension bs. On paper, Denver's line up was stronger than Philly's and the Sixers have a terrible road record. No excuses last night. The Sixers were the better team.
I dont know about that, i think the sixers team might actually be a little better on paper, with the suspensions. Igoudala and korver are really coming into their own with iverson gone. miller is also doing a great job at getting his teammates the ball. Iverson and Camby are all star calibur players, but the nuggets dont really have anything else. However, suspensions aside, it was a good game by the sixers and a bad one by the nuggets.
<div class="quote_poster">Butter Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Excuses, excuses. Philly outplayed Denver, period. Would the game have been different if Denver was at full strengh? Sure, but they weren't so quit the damn suspension bs. On paper, Denver's line up was stronger than Philly's and the Sixers have a terrible road record. No excuses last night. The Sixers were the better team.</div> The Sixers came in far better at SF and SG; the Nuggets were better on paper at C and PG but not by as much. At PF, the Nuggets are one of the worst teams in the League even at full strength, due to the K-Mart and Nene injuries. Conclusion: the Sixers were favored to win and did win. The Nuggets are a hurting puppy. Of the 8 Melo suspension games still to come, the Nuggets would be close to even on paper only against the Trailblazers. A.I. scoring 35 or more may be the only hope to win some of the other 7 unless Camby gets his shooting back or George Karl's Diawara bet finally pays off. All the other Nuggets seem to have a ceiling to what they can do right now. For example, Reggie Evans is playing his guts out, but he just can't get the ball in the basket. I have a hunch A.I. on his own or on orders from George Karl is going to put up at least 30 shots against the Lakers tomorrow (Friday) night. But I do agree with you that the Sixers played well, especially in the 1st half. They played a disciplined low-error game. They have already learned how to play without Iverson, and Miller is distributing well.
I goofed, probably due to wishful thinking. The Nuggets are playing the Lakers tomorrow night in L.A., not the Clippers as I thought. I changed both of my posts here, better late than never. I still think A.I. will put up 30 shots or more, in a Karl/Nuggets gamble to pull off a major upset.
<div class="quote_poster">Neely Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> BTW, would have preferred Iverson shooting only against his former team/coach on the court, and not with words before the game.</div>I like that he shoots from the hip, no need to sugar coat it, it is what it is. He spoke the truth, wasn't taking cheap shots at guys to make himself feel better, he just told it like it was. <div class="quote_poster">Butter Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Excuses, excuses. Philly outplayed Denver, period. Would the game have been different if Denver was at full strengh? Sure, but they weren't so quit the damn suspension bs. On paper, Denver's line up was stronger than Philly's and the Sixers have a terrible road record. No excuses last night. The Sixers were the better team.</div>As much as it pains me to do so, I agree 100%. No way the Nuggets should get handled the way they did. They simply made too many TO's and along with their horrid 38 fg%, earned them the L they deserved for the performance they gave.
<div class="quote_poster">Butter Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Excuses, excuses. Philly outplayed Denver, period. Would the game have been different if Denver was at full strengh? Sure, but they weren't so quit the damn suspension bs. On paper, Denver's line up was stronger than Philly's and the Sixers have a terrible road record. No excuses last night. The Sixers were the better team.</div> denver did not play at their best... let me fix that Iverson didnt play at his best did you see how many 3pts he AIRBALLED if he acctually made those and faced the fact that hes play AGGENST his former teamates and best friends he probably would have played a better game... the only thing im saying is that it was unconfortable for him to play agenst him former team, he even said it in the locker room interview before the game
<div class="quote_poster">Melo#15 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">denver did not play at their best... let me fix that Iverson didnt play at his best did you see how many 3pts he AIRBALLED if he acctually made those and faced the fact that hes play AGGENST his former teamates and best friends he probably would have played a better game... the only thing im saying is that it was unconfortable for him to play agenst him former team, he even said it in the locker room interview before the game</div>it's AGAINST
