T-Mac's Future?

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  1. elevate

    elevate JBB JustBBall Member

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    Ok so I have always been a big fan of Houston, and I was really expecting them to pull through this season past the first round. I thought they were MUCH better than Utah, no offense, but I guess I was wrong. T-mac talked alot about how its on him, and he says he did what he could, but i dont understand why he wasnt driving to the whole in the last 3+ minutes of the game. Utah was in the penalty from 7:30 seconds in the 4th, and T-Mac didnt drive in. He keeps deffering to Yao. He is the star of the player, not Yao. He is the scorer not Yao. He is the finisher, not Yao. I dont get why he kept passing to Yao in a clutch situation like that. Its 4th quarter with 2 minutes left when a player is seperated from the rest. Thats when guys like Jordan would step it up and make the big shots. Tmac wasnt doin it to my surprise, cuz i kno hes dont it before. what do you think will happen to him next year? I mean i think ever since hes come to houston, his games gotten worse every year, when it should be getting better.
     
  2. The Dream

    The Dream mama there goes that man!

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    I seriously don't know...I've really grown to have an attachment to the guy, but he "might" have to go for the right price (aka trade).......
     
  3. elevate

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    yeah same here. hes been my favorite player since he got traded to orlando and solitfied himself as one of the best but hes really not doing enough for his team. he said in last nights interview that he tried his hardest, but i think had he kept the ball in his hands and stop being a little biotch and passing the ball around, but instead be more liek kobe and ball hog, they woulda won the game. wen mcgrady gets hot hes unstoppable and everyone has seen that side of tmac.....but he can only get going if he takes shots...and ever since hes become the "facilatator" his stock as a player has gone down. hes much more effective as a scorer. i have no doubt in my mind that he can be as good a pure scorer as kobe if he really wanted to and worked at it. ever since i saw that game against the spurs when he hit 13 in 34 i thought he would end up being 1 of the greatest players of all time but hes really not goin at the pace..not even close but he has that ability IMO. he needs to go back to being a scorer and stop passing the ball. i was actually hopin Yao would fall out last nite at the end of the game, so then maybe tmac would take some more shots.
     
  4. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    The excuses have run out for McGrady. He's never been able to get past the first round, but this is the first year when his team was the favourite and, by all accounts, he should have advanced. There's been a lot of attention on how Dirk played terrible in the playoffs this year, but this is just as bad if not worse.
     
  5. The Dream

    The Dream mama there goes that man!

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    ^^^I hate to say it, but I agree.......
     
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    Who knows how T-Mac's back is gonna hurt from now on.. I think the Rockets might need to trade him when his value is high.
     
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    I thought they were putting heavy pressure on him in those final minutes and his teammates were scoring.
     
  8. XSV

    XSV JBB The Virve Dynasty

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    I say get rid of Yao while his value is high. He's just not that good, and he prevents the Rockets from running. They could fill their holes at pg, pf and center if they traded him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">XSV Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I say get rid of Yao while his value is high. He's just not that good, and he prevents the Rockets from running. They could fill their holes at pg, pf and center if they traded him.</div>They had holes at center?

    Yao/Mutombo is a good center combo imo.
     
  10. umair

    umair "Never underestimate the heart of a champion."

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    Tmac gave it his best. Not the whole series, but game 7. Throughout the whole series, meaning overall, he didn't play as I expected him to. But when it counted he played like the Tmac I know. He scored 29, and had 13 assists. Even though Tmac played garbage in the final 4 minutes, you can't blame Tmac or Rockets. You have to give credit to Jazz for answering back every time Rockets tried to pull away or comeback. Rockets played good, but Jazz played too good.

    Also, some of you guys said that why Tmac didn't drive in when he had Fisher on him. I really think it was because of Fisher's body strength. The guys is pretty muscular and has the body strength to stop McGrady from driving in. Also for like most of the 4th quarter when Yao was out, they put extra pressure on Tmac when Giricek was guarding him. Yao had 5 fouls and went to the bench which allowed Jazz to put more pressure on Tmac. Early on in the game, when Tmac tried to drive in he coiuldn't because of Fisher's body strength. So therefore, Tmac had to settle for jumpshots. That's about the only advantage he had over Fisher. HEIGHT. The only way he could not get blocked and have a chance of scoring was shooting. I know Tmac sometimes can be a good penetrator, but you have to realize this guy doesn't want back problems again. When he tried driving in, he wouldn't finish. It was impossible for Tmac to drive in.

    Overall, I think he didn't play upto his expectations. He was saying that he is determined and "its on him" to make the Rockets win. He tried his best but only in game 7. The Rockets could've easily closed out Utah in game 6 if they wanted. We were only down by like 1 point at one time in the 4th quarter. It was like the Rockets gave up. Its Tmac's team and it was definitely on him to make us win. He didn't play like the leader or like the Tmac that was hungry to win.

    Tmac's future will remain in Houston. They won't trade him just yet. He will probably be here 2-3 more years. He knows that if the organization bring in some more key pieces to build around him and Yao, they could go far. The guy right now has a great team surrounding him. If they are a little better coached, I believe they could go far next season. They have a good team right now, so why break it up and rebuild? I say bring in some more key guys that can create their own shot and help Houston win. They have good group of guys right now, they just need some key positions to fill in. If they can do that, they'll go far.
     
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    Why does Mcgrady get all the blame? Last time I checked Yao was an all star as well? I know T-Mac said it was "on him" but basketball is a team sport, and frankly the Rockets just didn't have a good enough team to beat Utah.
     
  12. Skiptomylue11

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    Its really interesting that if the Rockets scored two more points, every Rocket fan would be celebrating. There would be no media saying JVG is out of there, and the Rockets' season being a failure.

    Either McGrady or Yao or both would be glorified.

    The Jazz would be seen as failures after having a 16 pt lead in game 7 and losing the game. They would be seen as a team that had one of the hottest starts in the nba only to slowly drift to 5th place and lose in the first round.

    The Rockets were obviously competitive with the Jazz and were 2 pts away from winning the series to be the favourite in the next series and would have a good shot at making it to the WCF. The glory between a W and a L is huge, although the line that defines it can be a single point.
     
  13. Clear It Out

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    If I were the Rockets I'd trade Yao for the Oden. Yao's just so stiff. He got picked apart by OKUR, an average defender at best.
     
  14. XSV

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    ^Agreed, I'll take Greg over Yao anyday.
     
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    Well first off it seems as if Van Gundy will be gone soon enough. I don't know, has TMac ever had a very good coach? Though players out of high school can be great, there does seem to be a trend where they struggle to lead a team very far, especially without a great coach. Kobe Bryant is the only exception, though not really since he played with Shaq and had/has Phil Jackson has head coach. Maybe going to college gives these amazing athletes the ability to lead a team to the championship or at least deep into the NCAA tournament, which may equate to great experience.

    Which coach Houston decides to bring in will probably tell a lot about the future of the Rockets and Tracy McGrady. But I wouldn't mind seeing TMac on the Warriors (for the right price) [​IMG] Let Don Nelson and Baron Davis solve TMac's problems
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Skiptomylue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Its really interesting that if the Rockets scored two more points, every Rocket fan would be celebrating. There would be no media saying JVG is out of there, and the Rockets' season being a failure.

    Either McGrady or Yao or both would be glorified.

    The Jazz would be seen as failures after having a 16 pt lead in game 7 and losing the game. They would be seen as a team that had one of the hottest starts in the nba only to slowly drift to 5th place and lose in the first round.

    The Rockets were obviously competitive with the Jazz and were 2 pts away from winning the series to be the favourite in the next series and would have a good shot at making it to the WCF. The glory between a W and a L is huge, although the line that defines it can be a single point.</div>
    Awesome post. Really puts things in perspective and points out how sensational the media is sometimes.
     
  17. drunkenbarden

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    Give Mcgrady some credit, after going through a career threatning back injury and that is still sometimes disturbing him its hard for a player to get back to his regular self, and as you can see Mcgrady lost a step ever since that back injury hes not as explosive anymore.
    And he tried his best in game 7..( if anyone saw the NBA Tv press conference.) he gave us 29 pts 13 asst 5 rebounds and 3 blocked shots. You cant ask for anymore from him especially against such a deep and physical defensive team. And yes Tmac did put all the pressure on himself during the interview, but basketball is a team sport and the Rockets just did not execute as well as the Jazz did, so its not reallly all on Tmac.
     
  18. Run BJM

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    I have to agree with you, elevate. Game 7 was there for the taking about 5 or 6 times during the 3rd and 4th quarter and T-Mac just looked like he didn't want it and when he did shoot he made horrible decisions. He was being guarded by effing Derek Fisher and Gordan Giricek for most of the game and hes taking jumpers and trying to post up, he never wanted to go to the rim, was rather passive, and over-dribbled a lot and ended up coming up with nothing. If hes going to take those crazy shots hes got to make them, the guy is like the opposite of Baron Davis; he makes those crazy fadeaways and 3's during the regular season but they don't fall in the POs with pressure on while BD misses 75% of those shots normally then all of a sudden hes making half court shots and off balance 3's regularly in the POs.

    Right now I'm thinking that Yao is the main piece in Houston and hes the closer. Ideally you want a guy like McGrady next to him but the rest of their supporting cast is just awful and Yao would be better off with several good teammates than two other good players and the rest of the rotation filled out with 7th, 8th, or 9th men (at best). It might be time to trade off T-Mac for a few good players and/or picks or prospects. Its really too bad because if some of those FA signings they made (Bonzi, Stromile Swift, Spanoulis, Sura) had actually worked out you'd be looking at a team with two legit stars and several good starting calibur role players.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">XSV Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">^Agreed, I'll take Greg over Yao anyday.</div>

    Based on what? Potential? Oden has yet to play a minute in the NBA. Your basing that off of nothing but hype.
     
  20. Houston rockets 2007

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    I know its Mcgrady's team but he doesent deserve all the blame everytime he gets the ball he has to distrubute it or shoot
     

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