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  1. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    Thanks to the Raptors Forum for providing this thread idea.

    If these awards existed, who would have won them for last season?

    MVP:

    Most Improved Player:

    Best Bench Player:

    Best Defensive Player:

    Best Offensive Player:

    Best Team Newbie:

    Best League Newbie:

    Best Veteran:

    Best Teammate:

    Worst Teammate:
     
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  2. Voodoo Child

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    MVP: Jason Williams

    Most Improved Player: Earl Watson

    Best Bench Player: Shane Battier

    Best Defensive Player: Shane Battier/Earl Watson (Tie)

    Best Offensive Player: Jason Williams

    Best League Newbie: Gordan Giricek

    Best Team Newbie: Wesley Person

    Best Veteran: Lorenzen Wright

    Best Teammate: Earl Watson

    Worst Teammate: Jason Williams
     
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    MVP: Pau Gasol

    Most Improved Player: Earl Watson

    Best Bench Player: Shane Battier

    Best Defensive Player: Shane Battier

    Best Offensive Player: Pau Gasol

    Best League Newbie: Gordan Giricek

    Best Team Newbie: Earl Watson

    Best Veteran: Wesley Person

    Best Teammate: Stromile Swift

    Worst Teammate: Jason Williams
     
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  4. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    TheFranchise3, this is last year's awards so Jones and Bell can not be included.
     
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    jbbFranchise JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SpartanFan:</div><div class="quote_post">TheFranchise3, this is last year's awards so Jones and Bell can not be included.</div>

    Sorry about that, I thought you were supposed to predict it.
     
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    MVP: Jason Williams

    Most Improved Player: Swift

    Best Bench Player: Shane Battier

    Best Defensive Player: Shane Battier

    Best Offensive Player: Jason Williams

    Best League Newbie: Gooden

    Best Team Newbie: Earl Watson

    Best Veteran: Wesley Person

    Best Teammate: Jason Williams

    Worst Teammate: Batiste
     
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    JWilltheFreak JBB JustBBall Member

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    Jason Williams worst teammate? LOL
     
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  8. Voodoo Child

    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    Yes, he is on bad terms with Pau Gasol and he was on bad terms with Antonis Fotsis. He is also racist towards Asians.
     
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    How is jason williams best offensive player? when he only averages 12PPG..and gasol average nearly 20...gasol is grizzles best player hands down....
     
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    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    But Jason Williams averages about nine assists per game. To be an offensive player you can't just excel at one thing on offense. You have to be able to do it all. Like Williams does.
     
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    offence involves "scoring" otherwise it would be called "all-round player"

    Williams who only scored past 26 points twice this year should hardly be called best offensive player....Gasol gets that tag.
     
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    Offense is not only scoring. Just like defense is not only steals. You can't call the best scorer the best offensive player because on offense you assist, rebound, and turn the ball over too.
     
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    Offence is scoring plain and simple....When you call someone your best offensive scorer it is who scores the most points....Jason Williams is a PG..therefore he is not the best offensive player....If your best offensive player scores 12PPG then your team has problems
     
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    I didn't call anyone the best offensive scorer. I called him the best offensive player. We are repeating ourselves here and we need a third opinion. I am saying offense is not one dimensional and you are saying it is. We'll just have to wait for a third opinion.
     
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    It's like saying Tony Parker is the Spurs best offensive player because he gets steals and gets assists..when clearly Tim Duncan is the spurs best offensive player......you can't include assists,defence,steals in who is best offensive..as that is strickly scoring....
     
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    Steals is a defensive attribute. And comparing Tony Parker's assists and scoring compared to Tim Duncan's points and offensive rebounds along with assists is a little bit different than comparing Pau Gasol and Jason Williams.
     
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    It isn't different at all...you are saying Williams is the grizzles best offensive player because he gets assists.and do other things..right? the players and how their get their points may be different..but the situation is the same....I refuse to believe a guy who averages little over 12 points per game is your best offensive player..thats not offence...
     
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    Offense is not just the scoring of points. Offense has to do with assists and making the special play. Scoring is good but the best players do more that score on offense. They get their team mates open shots and they set them up for success. Just because you can score doesnt make you a great offensive player.
     
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    When you saying who is your best offensive player..you don't say a guy who can do more than just score....What else does williams do...he is great at assists..but what else? Gasol is a better scorer,rebounder,shot blocker....thats makes him a better offensive player if you are going to say scoring is not everything that makes a player a offensive one...No guy who gets over 13 a game deserves to be called best offensive player IMO...

    But clearly I'm not going to convince you on this one....
     
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  20. Voodoo Child

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    How does blocking make you a better offensive player? Gasol barely gets any offensive rebounds either.
     
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