Teams still below the minimum payroll

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    As of now, the following teams are still significantly below the minimum payroll of $52.811 million (all figures include the salaries of any unsigned 1st round picks):
    • Atlanta--$39,973,215 (after signing Elton Brand today)--12 players
    • Charlotte--$49,740,131--10 players
    • Milwaukee--$42,043,123 (Depending on how they structure Mayo's deal)--10 players
    • Philadelphia--$46,793,010 (Factoring in Royce White)--10 players
    • Sacramento--$49,062,866--12 players

    The point of this is to ask--what are the chances that any of these teams would want to take Freeland off our hands for nothing, since they have so much cap room remaining, and they have to pay the at least the minimum payroll anyway? :dunno:
     
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    FREELAND + A 1ST FOR CAP SPACE

    GET IT DONE KP
     
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    I don't see any of them wasting money on freeland. They could give it to any other group of players that are better and cheaper than him.
     
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    if they dont use it they have to pay it anyways right?
     
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    Freeland still has 2 years left. If he had just 1 year left some of those teams might take him for a 2nd rounder. But 2 years? No way.
     
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    Yeah i think they must have a minimum salary.
     
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    freeland + 3 million dollars for nothing...next year
     
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    Like I said no one is going to take on 2 years of Freeland, however I just wanted to point out that we already sent out 1.5mil in the Lopez trade kicker (I think) and we can send out a max of 3 mil/year regardless of how much we take in.
     
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    I read somewhere recently that the max that a team can use per year to sweeten trades is 3.6m.
     
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    it's 3.2M this year. It goes up every year in the CBA.

    As for "minimum salary", it's just that--salary, not cap number. Roy's amnestied contract that we're still paying for counts for that "floor". So while for some teams it may actually be that cap number = payroll number, it's not always the case.
     
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    The second year is going to be the deal killer.
     
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    Great thread... great info...

    I had no idea the Hawks were so far under the "minimum payroll," which I guess I also forgot existed.

    Really, that explains the Elton Brand signing. Elton Brand is not worth anywhere near his $4 mill deal, but if they have to sign players, it's not really going to hurt them at all, being a one year deal and all.

    With $13 mill to cover though, who would the Hawks sign? You'd have to assume they'd mostly be one year deals, given the players available. Jennings is still out there, but the Hawks just matched the Bucks' offer on Teague.

    Who is out there that could command a somewhat expensive deal, yet settle for a one year contract? They just signed Brand, Millsap, and Carroll, so I guess that puts Kenyon Martin and Antawn Jamison out of the running.

    D.J. Augustin? Corey Maggette? Brandan Wright? Mo Williams? Nate Robinson?

    It seems like all of the decent free agents have been taken, and they've got to fill out their roster with short, one year contract role players at this point.

    I guess a trade might be looming for the Hawks, unless that figure didn't include the Caroll, Millsap, or Teague signings.
     
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    We paid N.O. so they could pay Lopez his bonus salary? Why didn't we pay Lopez directly so it would classify as salary, not the cash portion of a trade?
     
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    The CBA requires that trade kickers are paid by the team trading the player away. We didn't have the option of paying the contractually-mandated kicker, so the only way for us to absorb responsibility for it was by sending the cash to New Orleans.
     
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    Have any of those teams amnestied players? If you are paying an amnestied player like we are with Roy their salary counts towards the minimum payroll.

    Edit; Charlotte amnestied Tyrus Thomas just this year so you need to add his salary to the minimum.
     
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    I don't think any of these teams would take Freeland since it would eat into their cap space next year too. If we wanted to give up a protected first or Leonard or something I'm sure they would take him but theres no reason for us to give up an asset for cap space we don't need yet. I think those teams with cap space do a trade with a luxury tax team that can give them $3mil or a prospect as it could save the tax team like Brooklyn something around 300% of the salary.
     
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    http://www.hoopsworld.com/philadelphia-76ers-below-minimum-salary

     
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    Unfortunately, we're in no place to throw in assets to get rid of Joel.

    BTW, has Mo Williams been signed yet?
     
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    What if they used Joel, Crabbe and Barton?
     
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