Sorry, it's not illegal to let those 12 year old children make shoes! Don't blame the factory for cutting those jobs, blame the discriminating minimum age laws! /s
It's my insurance that's being cancelled. It's been an excellent insurance policy for us. It's paid for employees' wives having babies, a surgery I had last year (cost me just a couple $hundred), etc. It was a benefit of joining this company. If my company insurance is dropped, I expect many many companies will be dropped. And that's going to be another huge bad debacle for this bullshit law. With the best of intentions, these progressive ideas do a lot of damage. The problem is those progressives won't admit it and fix it.
If your employer thinks paying for your healthcare is still a benefit that they want to provide, then they will do so. If they don't, then you are free to find another job that does pay healthcare. It's the perfect libertarian employment market, so I don't know what you are complaining about. I don't know, my employer isn't dropping health coverage. I guess my employer values me more than your employer values you. Free market, baby. Yes, you can eat libertarian cake, Denny. If this was actually a progressive health plan, our employers wouldn't be involved at all. barfo
I understand this as well. My wife has had trouble with her insurance from the first of the year. The union she belongs to dropped their insurance and hooked up with cover oregon, and we all know how cover oregon has had issues...so she has had dental and vision, but her health care has been non existent. We have had to pay out of pocket with zero chance of being reimbursed. Just last week she found a crack in the system to force coverage due to her being charged from day one and she was able to use some special "trust me" thing that will bridge until cover oregon is no longer broken...woot
They may offer a lesser quality plan. They may drop coverage for my wife. This is just idiotic. As is you apologizing for ObamaCare. I like my plan. I want to keep it. Let them eat cake. Assholes. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ar-if-you-like-your-health-care-plan-keep-it/
I guess we had to pass it to know what's in it. I'm sure that it's such a winner Democrats will embrace it this midterm election.
Barfo doesn't have the first clue about libertarianism. He's just making up shit to be on the wrong side. Again.
I thought the whole point of obamacare was to get more people on healthcare? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
That does sound idiotic. Sounds like they don't care about keeping their employees happy. I'm sure that you can go buy an equivalent plan on your own. You just don't want to pay for it. barfo
In barfoland, money grows on trees. Less affordable insurance with lesser quality is something companies will just have to pay for. Somehow. The employees will pay for it, somehow. Like less profit sharing, if the company has one. My employer wrote this in email: "affordable care act will affect us in terms of cost and coverage." Let them eat cake, barfo.
What's hilarious is people in the middle class think the Democrats represent them. The Democrats are the party of the very rich and the very poor. Of course, they are also now the party of the middle class sucker, because look at the wealth transfers and ask: To and from are they going? I used to be a proud Democrat. I mistakenly believed the GOP was the party of the rich. Then I went to work in corp fin and I realized what a fool I was. Now I say a pox on both their houses. We complain about our government, yet we vote at a 90% clip to keep our representatives. It's madness. Bottom line, if you voted for Obamacare, but didn't read the bill or know the provisions in detail when you voted for it, you are not fit for office. Your vote put your party before the people. Health care for all? A fine idea and a wonderful goal, but this bill simply made health insurance more unaffordable and more bureaucratic. It stinks on ice, but people in Washington were more interested in a political victory (supporting or opposing the bill) than they were in helping the American people.
Did you think your employer-paid healthcare was somehow 'free' before? Isn't that what everyone, including you, expected? Why the surprise? barfo
I think the company's profits are a huge part of my security. Paying more for lesser service hurts my security. This is true for about a hundred million people who are about to lose their insurance. Let them eat cake, barfo. I hope it happens to you.
Its easy for the holier than thou club to make light of the plight of others, right up to the point that they become effected. I dont wish ill of others, but it would be poetic justice if he were to have to share the same fate
Heh. Well, I don't think 100M people are going to lose insurance. Their coverage might change in various ways (some good, some not so good). You've repeatedly argued that employees should either accept what their employer offers, no matter how miniscule, or go find a better job. I think you are free to do that. Seems like that's all the security you ask for, and you've got it. barfo
If they don't have the better insurance they have already had, they're losing their insurance. By your reasoning, if you lose a $5 bill but find a $1 bill, you've still got money. 100M people are going to lose their insurance. You can't spin it away. Let them eat cake.
Yes, yes, I'm so hostile to the plight of others that I'm in favor of universal healthcare (and failing that, Obamacare) so that some of the people who don't have health insurance at all can get it. If that costs Denny or I a few extra bucks, so be it. It's true I'm not so sympathetic with the 'plight' of Denny, because I think he's just whining for political effect. barfo
