The $578 million school in Los Angeles.....

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    WTF. A school costs Five hundred fucking seventy eight MILLION dollars to build?

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100822/ap_on_re_us/us_taj_mahal_schools

    No wonder we're laying off teachers left and right....we're spending it on the damn school!

    Wonder how much of this was skimmed to line the pockets of the corrupt politicians and unions in this town.

    :confused:

    of course, privatizing education is teh devil.
     
  2. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I don't think privatizing will be the answer, unless the question is "how do we keep a lot of kids from getting an education"
     
  3. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    yes, because it works so wonderfully with today's glorified babysitters known as public education.
     
  4. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Whats that got to do with what I said?
     
  5. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    really?

    you think the public education system works?
     
  6. Eastoff

    Eastoff But it was a beginning.

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    Just curious, where did you go to school, private or public?
     
  7. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Private.
     
  8. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Are you talking to someone else that I have on ignore and I've forgotten? Because you're asking me about something I didn't say.
     
  9. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    do I really need to spell this out?

    1. I mockingly said that privatizing high schools was the devil.
    2. You replied that privatizing is not the answer because people won't get an education. That implies you support public education and are against privatization.
    3. I said public education is terrible, implying your stance to keep the status quo is incorrect.
    4. you become confused.
     
  10. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I said privatizing it isn't the answer because some people will be denied an education. Unless it's open to everyone. Or they don't have an agenda in what they prefer to be taught.

    I just fear that some privatized school would teach creationism in school instead of teaching evolution instead.
     
  11. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    School vouchers can help greatly.

    Maybe there will be schools to teach creationism instead of evolution. I went to a catholic high school and they were surprisingly more open to teaching a full view of both creationism and evolution than screaming hippies would lend you to believe (Jesuit was actually surprisingly quite liberal).
     
  12. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    The thing is, they shouldn't be teaching creationism in schools. That's not the place for it.

    And instead of going private, why not have the government spend some of the $$ they did on a pointless war, on education? Imagine if we put forth the $$ towards education, instead the military (not saying we shouldn't have one, but why not privatize that instead?)
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    $578M / 4200 students = $137K per. Doesn't seem all that expensive when you amortize it over 32 years (then it's no more than $17K per).

    It's hard to say public education fails in comparison to ritzy private schools that cost the same or more, along with $10K (or more) donations per student per semester (by the parents).

    We don't know if THIS school is going to succeed or fail, but for sure it should have every opportunity to succeed given the cost. Gotta try something new, and this is pretty much something new.

    What's really questionable is considering this some sort of emergency stimulus spending. It creates 168 teacher jobs at 25 students/teacher. For grins, call it 500 jobs at $578M cost is ridiculous.

    It's also questionable the propaganda aspect - spending all sorts of money on "the features include fine art murals and a marble memorial depicting the complex's namesake"
     
  14. EL PRESIDENTE

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    Creationism plays a big part in many moral/philosophical type settings. I don't see how you can ignore something like it.
     
  15. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    My whole entire schooling, from K through college, we never talked about creationism.

    I can totally see why we'd want to ignore hokum.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    meh. most people won't remember anything from HS anyway.
     
  17. GriLtCheeZ

    GriLtCheeZ "Well, I'm not lookin' for trouble."

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    I thought you wuz from da streetz?
     
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    Sug Well-Known Member

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    It actually works well based on the job they are asked to do.
     
  19. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Could you say that it works well too, based on the lack of the support given?
     
  20. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Don't get why they are dumping so much money into one high school. Couldn't they just build 5 $100 million high schools set around the county to relieve overcrowding?
     

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