Well it all comes down to how much we have to ship out. If we get Mo for only Rudy I'd be ecstatic. If we get Chris Paul for Oden and Roy I would be pissed.
Exactly... Mo Williams is not a great player, but he's a pretty darn good one, and he's only 27 years old. He could come off the bench as the third guard behind Miller and Roy and be an effective upgrade while Bayless gets experience and improves his perimeter shooting. Ed O.
Not sure I agree. On top of his lousy defense, he would make the team's already stagnant ball movement even worse. Maybe I'm being unduly biased by his play-off performance, but I wouldn't even want him as a designated shooter late in a close game.
I would rather do no deal than a Williams deal. Dude is a choker in the playoffs, we don't need many more of those.
As I recall, the report was for a "multiple-time All-Star" which I don't think Williams is (though I could be wrong). Also, a Yahoo report called Mo Williams the Blazers' "plan Z." So I don't think he was the primary target.
The "multiple time all-star" was Chris Paul, and that is pretty much dead. The Blazers, if still wanting to upgrade, will have to look somewhere else other than Paul and hopefully Williams because he is just an average player, he is not an all-star at all.
merge alert! http://sportstwo.com/threads/162213-Portland-Covets-Mo-Williams How fuckin' hard is it to scroll down a little and see if a thread on this topic has already been started?!?!?!
Correction: He's a pretty darned good regular season player. In 30 playoff games, he's got a PER of 12.5. Normally a .400+ three point shooter (WIN!) it plummets to .344 in the playoffs--and he averaged over 5 attempts a game in the playoffs, so it wasn't for lack of trying (FAIL!) I hate the idea of paying $9 mil/year for a guy who will help us win 4 or 5 more regular season games and then just vanish in the games that count. That's how 61 win teams featuring LeBron James don't make it to the Conference Finals.
I guess I could be ok with a straight across swap of Rudy for Mo if it were possible. But we'd have to throw in Joel to make it work, and I'm hoping he's still a good bargaining chip. And even if not, I like the odds more of Joel being productive in a playoff run, even with the injury history, more than Mo.
So, if I hear you correctly, you're saying that while Mo Williams may be in the deal, our goal is really Zydrunas Ilgauskas?
I put almost no stock in 30 games, especially given a decent chunk of those games happened in 2006. If you remove his 2/11 from 3 pointers when he was with the Bucks, his 3% is 35.6% in the playoffs... not too bad. I'd much rather win 4 or 5 more regular season games, get home court advantage, and then take my chances. I'm not advocating making Williams a go-to player nor even a starter. I think he could be an effective floor-spacer as a third guard. Whether we pay a third guard $10m or $26m over the next three years isn't very relevant to me... winning games is what I care about. Ed O.
Sounds like he'd be a decent role player, which the Blazers need. They do not appear to be counting on him to transform the franchise. If they deal for him, if he does not cost too much, if he contributes, and if he's a decent person, I'm OK. A lot of ifs, here we are, once againg, getting worked up over speculation piled on speculation!
All the Blazers have is decent role players. The last thing this team needs is another decent role player. What they need is someone that can carry the team along with Roy. All great teams have at least 2 all-star type players. Portland has 1 and a bunch of role players.