Misleading thread title. They haven't been busted for anything...yet. It's all a bit in the grey area. Back in February when they were scrambling to cover their asses, that doesn't look good, but even the guy admits that the Ducks never asked specifically for a single player.
This is a pretting damning quote by Lyle Yes, he could be lying, or stretching the truth, but it still doesn't look good for Oregon. This is not good for the Pac 12. The only way the conference is going to get more national respect is if we regularly send multiple teams to BCS bowls and do well in them. Having the best 2 programs of the past decade on (or potentially on) probation could hurt the whole league's image.
"Lyles insists Oregon did not make a direct request or payment to steer recruits to Eugene." How is anyone busted? As the recent SI article stated, there is no smoking-gun and if any violations were committed, they were minor.
Clearly something is amiss. Oregon got caught with its hand in the cookie jar- but how bad is it really? I still think a slap on the wrist will be the punishment.
I doubt even a slap on the wrist will happen. Canzano's across the country will write their drivel. With the NBA and NFL shut down and baseball being pretty much boring, they're desperate for flame material so each and every one of them will take a few swipes at the Ducks. Maybe in a few years the NCAA will try to write some rule addressing this grey area which will probably end up making things even more of a clusterfuck. STOMP
I don't see it clearly. I guess. Lyles and the UO had maintained no payment for influence. Lyles was paid $25,000 for scouting players and documents show Kelly approved this for the highest scouting service offered. In question is a note from Kelly thanking Lyle for assistance in visits for Seastrunk, Reed and Williams. Reed chose Auburn. There are pictures circulating of Lyles at Tiger Stadium with Seastrunk. Unless I'm missing something, there isn't much here.... This is not a smoking-gun. Was Kelly thanking Lyles for arranging and influencing the visit, or was he thanking Lyle for scouting the players so the UO could arrange the visit. Clearly, it isn't clear. Either way, worst case, it's my understanding it isn't a major violation. Lyles and players family members continue to state there was no influence and decisions were made freely. There was some media chatter that Lyles went to Seastrunk gma and bypassed the mother, but family has denied this.
Quack fans are delusional. Just trying their hardest to convince themselves that nothing is wrong and this isn't serious. Yahoo! doesn't fuck around with BS, ask USC.
You seem to know a lot more than the rest of us, so can you answer one question? Is the NCAA conducting an official investigation??
This isn't going to be that big of an issue. If Auburn still hasn't had there BCS trophy taken away from them for a much much worse situation then something like this should be a slap on the wrist. Every competitive college team does shady shit to get there players, we apparently did some stuff but we sure as hell aren't the only ones and from reading that article it makes me think why this is that big of a deal. 25k for a guy, that not only us but LOTS of teams have paid for the same thing, who admits that he was only paid for scouting services but then on his own free will went out of his way (not for additional pay) to steer candidates to Oregon. There are huge problems and lots of shady shit that happens with every big college football recruitment program and if something big happens to us over this small issue that is in a grey sector then it signals that there trying to clean up recruitment and every other team better watch there back because we will only be the start. I have no faith that that will actually happen so i'm just going to assume nothing big really happens.
I don't really know if it's true or not, but I've read theories that the NCAA was told to back off Auburn by the FBI as the feds have a much wider scale ongoing investigation into corruption in college sports. Here's an article that touches on the FBI's involvement http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/11/fbi_ncaa_look_at_mississippi_s.html STOMP
