The Favre Situation

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  1. TheBeef

    TheBeef Commish of FUN!

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    Ive been thinking about this for a few days now. The more thought I put into it, the more clear it becomes to me. I have no problem with the Packers if they don't want Brett Favre. I have no problem with the Packers if they dont want to lose Brett Favre. I do, however, have a huge problem with the Packers combining those two. You cant have your cake and eat it too, as the saying goes. Either let him compete for a starting spot on the roster, or release him from his contract....I wont be surprised if the Commish grants Favre his release because the Packers aren't acting in good faith in dealing with Favre. Its just such a unique mess, Goodell may have to go way outside the box for the good of the league.
     
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    Thoth Sisyphus in training

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    And Favre has been so pure & innocent through this whole ordeal. At least, Michael Jordan handled his retirements w/ some dignity and class.

    Favre needs to make a decision and live with it.

    If I were Ted T, I'd trade #4 back to Atlanta.... in the move of ultimate irony.

    Trusting Goddell to do the right thing? The same guy who was denial about spygate and made it go away so the reputation of the NFL wouldn't be tarnished.
     
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    Vintage Defeating Communism...

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    Goodell has no right to "grant" Favre's release. Only the Packers do.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 31 2008, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Goodell has no right to "grant" Favre's release. Only the Packers do.</div>

    Do you think that Goodell won't have any influence over the fate of Brett Favre? I think he will.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 31 2008, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 31 2008, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Goodell has no right to "grant" Favre's release. Only the Packers do.</div>

    Do you think that Goodell won't have any influence over the fate of Brett Favre? I think he will.
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    Should and will are two different questions.

    Should he? No. Packers haven't done anything contrary to league rules.

    Will he? Yeah. He's all over the place when it comes to handing out punishments..... he's not really consistant, so I can easily seeing him taking a role in this and deciding to force the Packers hand.

    De Fuhrer is probably on the phone with the Packers as we speak....
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 31 2008, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 31 2008, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 31 2008, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Goodell has no right to "grant" Favre's release. Only the Packers do.</div>

    Do you think that Goodell won't have any influence over the fate of Brett Favre? I think he will.
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    Should and will are two different questions.

    Should he? No. Packers haven't done anything contrary to league rules.

    Will he? Yeah. He's all over the place when it comes to handing out punishments..... he's not really consistant, so I can easily seeing him taking a role in this and deciding to force the Packers hand.

    De Fuhrer is probably on the phone with the Packers as we speak....
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    We are thinking alike on this.
     
  7. TheBeef

    TheBeef Commish of FUN!

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    Im not so sure that Goodell doesnt have the right to take a player away from a franchise if he deems that franchise is not acting in good faith....in a case where a team doesnt want a player and has no intention of letting him participate in the league for their team and also doesnt want that player anywhere else, the Commish may very well envoke some unknown "whats best for the game" clause like the one Selig often talks about....
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef @ Jul 31 2008, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Im not so sure that Goodell doesnt have the right to take a player away from a franchise if he deems that franchise is not acting in good faith....in a case where a team doesnt want a player and has no intention of letting him participate in the league for their team and also doesnt want that player anywhere else, the Commish may very well envoke some unknown "whats best for the game" clause like the one Selig often talks about....</div>


    The Packers could come back and say "hey, we want Favre to come back and compete for the starting job." Even if its not true (doubtful it is), Goodell can't actually prove it.

    That'd be crap on Goodell's part.

    Which, also...would be par for the course.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 31 2008, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Goodell has no right to "grant" Favre's release. Only the Packers do.</div>

    If the Packers don't want to grant Favre's release that's great. Let him play. Oh wait, they don't want to do that either. I think we've just discovered the rub that made Beef start this thread. Despite the fact that Favre should be stoned to death and have vultures shred the meat from his bones (perhaps not even in that order, the bastard!) for being an older athlete that has tried to be honest when asked if he could physically stand up to playing another year, the Packers don't have the right to end Favre's career. They need to let the man play or let the man go.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef @ Jul 31 2008, 05:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ive been thinking about this for a few days now. The more thought I put into it, the more clear it becomes to me. I have no problem with the Packers if they don't want Brett Favre. I have no problem with the Packers if they dont want to lose Brett Favre. I do, however, have a huge problem with the Packers combining those two. You cant have your cake and eat it too, as the saying goes. Either let him compete for a starting spot on the roster, or release him from his contract....I wont be surprised if the Commish grants Favre his release because the Packers aren't acting in good faith in dealing with Favre. Its just such a unique mess, Goodell may have to go way outside the box for the good of the league.</div>

    Packers didn't want Corey Williams and the commish didn't force GB to release him or not put the franchise tag on him. The Pack ended up dealing him and they got something for him. No exceptions should be made for Favre. I think the Packers should be allowed to deal him and get something for him.

    If Favre wants to block a trade to the Jets or Bucs then that's Brett Favre's decision. GB has given Favre permission to talk to those teams and Favre has refused to speak to either team according to various reports.

    Now another report is saying the Jets have engaged the Packers in serious talks about Favre.

    I personally have more problems with the Packers trying to bribe Favre to stay retired than rather not releasing him. I wouldn't release Favre if I were Ted Thompson. I'd do everything possible to trade him and even if that means it takes all of the month of of August then so be it.

    Then again if I were Ted Thompson I would of traded for Jason Taylor and taken Favre back and made one more run at it. [​IMG]
     

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