Science The Hard Cap and you - please read

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  1. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    i really hope i'm not the only one upset that this 'ducking the tax' is fundamentally wrong, and goes against everything this franchise claimed it was going to do. i'm not necessarily upset at at the particular action, but more what it signifies.
     
  2. WesleyMatthews

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    I think of it more as the offseason and going back to the trade deadline is fundamentally wrong. Started with the Clippers trade losing 2 starters for "flexibility" and culminated with the team hard capped to bring in a 7th guard.

    Now that we are here and hard capped the team might as well just duck the tax. They can't go into it more than a few million, so better to leave a non repeater year available in the future.
     
  3. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    what makes you think they will actually pay the tax next year? fool me once...
     
  4. Storyteller2

    Storyteller2 Player Salary Geek

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    Actually, the earliest that it can happen is in the 25-26 season. If they are over the tax threshold in 22-23, 23-24 and 24-25, then repeater tax kicks in if they are also over the threshold in 25-26.
     
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  5. WesleyMatthews

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    You sure about that? I thought this last season was the only recent year they were out of the tax, so the 2020-21 season would count towards the repeater.

    Or maybe it was 2019-20 they were in it; I can't remember.
     
  6. wizenheimer

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    they were tax payers in 18-19 & 19-20, but not 20-21 or 21-22

    the trigger is 3 of the last 4 seasons. So if they are taxpayers next season:

    19-20 - tax
    20-21 - no tax
    21-22 - no tax
    22-23 - tax

    next phase:

    20-21 - no tax
    21-22 - no tax
    22-23 - tax
    23-24 - tax?

    at that point, they'd still be 2 years away from paying repeater tax in 25-26
     
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    True - but it doesn't matter
     
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    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

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    Great, this guy justifies the people that keep thinking we can do things like trade Hart and Sharpe for Durant.

    It literally doesn't matter. We will be hard capped and will need to be under that amount. Who cares if it happens tomorrow. We still have to stay under that hard cap amount.
     
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  10. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Yay semantics!
     
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    Let's be honest: The hard cap isn't the #1 thing that will prevent a Hart+Shape for Durant trade.
     
  12. SlyPokerCat

    SlyPokerCat cats rool dogs drool

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    Of course. That doesn't stop Joe Blow from reading that and thinking they can, though.

    The hard cap is real, and makes consolidation trades trickier for us. We can't really make one for Durant anytime soon unless you wanna move Dame anyways.
     
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    Can we just enjoy our last day w/out being in the hard cap?
     
  14. hoopsjock

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    @Tince So you're promoting a guy who then made fun of people who do actually know what they're talking about, while proving he doesn't?

     
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    It's this simple, you either believe one of these two things:

    1) Agreeing to a contract with GP2 hard capped us the minute it was agreed upon, therefore we've been hard capped since Thursday night.

    2) They put a full court press on GP2 as their #1 target in free agency, just to then spend the next 5 days coming up with crazy scenarios to make the player they desperately wanted to sign's contract invalid so they don't get hard capped when they could've just not offered him more than the Tax-MLE.
     
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    Man, you wrote this great post and then unnecessarily made it political. Please, man, don't do that. I like legit beg every poster let's please not bring politics into posts unless its OT area. It can only lead to strife on the forum.
     
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    There were other TAX-MLE offers out there for him and we know when all is equal, players don't come here. We wouldn't have gotten him at that price.
     
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    Yeah, you misread that. I'm saying if they didn't want to be hard capped, they obviously were okay with it.
     
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    I don't think I have the popularity to be able to promote anything. I've shared a lot of dumb tweets. On your show, you also spend a great deal of time sharing ideas of others that you don't always agree with.

    I will add to my signature that I don't agree with every tweet I share. It will be right next to the bet your co-host made with me and never paid up on.
     

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