The inevitable

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Gotta keep beating the drums, or the minions will stop throwing virgi... er... I mean money into his fake volcano...
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    yeah, can't be global warming/climate change, because Hurricanes of this magnitude are always hitting the NY/NJ area.
     
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    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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  6. Denny Crane

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    And global warming has what to do with landfall of a hurricane in NYC?

    The ones that hit NYC hundreds of years ago were category 3 or category 5 ones. Sandy was a category 1.
     
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    Yeah, I've got to admit that people wouldn't immediately point the finger at climate change. All it does is make people more set in their view, whatever their view of climate change.

    In some ways, the take away shouldn't matter whether you believe manmade climate change is the issue or not. The big differentiator with this storm as opposed to the historic ones was how high the water level got. If I remember right, the sea level has gone up around NYC and regardless of the cause, the issue will have to be dealt with one way or another (we'll soon have a Netherlands/dike feel there?)
     
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    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    Many hurricanes have traveled up the Atlantic coast. That is where they often go.

    What was unique or rare about Sandy was the massive High pressure system in the North Atlantic that forced Sandy into the American land mass.

    There have been fewer hurricanes than "normal" the past several years.

    There have been WAY fewer hurricanes than were predicted by the Global Warming crowd. We were told that the science was "settled" and it was 100% guaranteed that many more (and more powerful) hurricanes would happen.

    That has not occurred.

    Sandy was not a particularly powerful hurricane. It was rare for being so large. It was rare for not taking the normal track out to sea.

    Not sure how that can be precisely blamed on "global warming".
     
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    Masbee -- Rookie of the Year

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    A sample size on ONE, gets you where in statistics?

    But, go ahead and beat that drum.
     
  10. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Many of the big hurricanes that affected NYC over the centuries didn't make landfall this far north. And I am pretty sure the city has been flooded just as bad as this previously, just not recently.

    Forbes article about the tidal surge:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/weather...adly-storm-surge-brewing-for-ny-nj-coastline/

    Interesting article in popular mechanics about sea level around NYC:
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/sci...ks-sea-level-is-rising-faster-than-the-worlds
     
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    bluefrog Go Blazers, GO!

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    Link?
     
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    http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/we...urricanes-formed-than-expected-in-2011-season

    Fewer hurricanes formed than expected in 2011 season

    The 2011 hurricane season comes to a close today and for the sixth year in a row, no major hurricanes -- category 3 or higher -- made landfall in the United States.

    The season had 19 tropical storms, exceeding NOAA’s prediction of 17. However, the number of actual hurricanes fell below forecaster's predictions.

    Only seven storms turned into hurricanes, rather than nine that were predicted. Likewise, instead of five major hurricanes expected, only three became major.
     
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    No one has mentioned it yet, but Mayor Bloomberg is blaming climate change for the storm and he's endorsing Obama because of that issue. Keep your poodles and small children away from Denny because he's probably aiming to kick something.
     
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    No. I'm not angry in the least. I also don't know he has a degree in a climate science related field.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Doesn't that make you respect his opinion more, Denny? After all, you reject about 97% of the people who do have degrees in climate science.

    barfo
     
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    Science isn't a vote, barfo.

    Otherwise they could vote the earth is flat and you'd fall off.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Then why did you object that Bloomberg doesn't have a degree, eh?
    He's exactly as qualified as you to blather on about climate change.

    barfo
     
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    He and the chicken little crowd need to convince me I should live in a cave and read at night by candlelight so we can "reduce" carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. I not only have every right to be skeptical, I SHOULD be.
     
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    These guys are risk management consultants, not climatologists. Also, I see no reference to "the science is settled" or a "100% guaranteed that many more (and more powerful) hurricanes would happen".
    Red herring. Has nothing to do with what Masbee asserted.
     

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