Politics The Joe Biden Thread

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  1. Phatguysrule

    Phatguysrule Well-Known Member

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    That has been a bipartisan effort.
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I like how it's a democratic witch hunt, with most of the witnesses being people who worked for Trump or are Republicans.
     
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    Airline industry filed federal lawsuit to block new administration rules that require them to inform customers up front about all fees. Industry said it would confuse customers to have too much information.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Nonsense. The choice isn't being taken away from you. You will be completely free to vote for the felon if you wish.

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    I think the deck was stacked against Bernie for two elections, the first 2016 with a coronation for the chosen one. The second was we cant afford to allow Bernie to run against Trump so lets coronate another.
     
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    Is Trump felon? I hadn’t realized a ruling was made on the felony charges.
     
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    No question he has committed felonies. Is US law "just" enough to convict a super wealthy politician?

    We shall see... Maybe if he had more pigmentation... Even that probably wouldn't matter. It's really about wealth. Race is the lever they use on the poor.
     
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    Storing the classified documents in his garage next to the corvette was the most obvious.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    The trial will be over well before the election. If he's acquitted, he won't be a felon. If he's convicted, he will be a felon, but you'll still be free to vote for him.

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    Storing them wasn't the problem (as much). Refusing to turn them in despite being asked repeatedly was more the problem, as it showed intent.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Bernie could have run in 2024 if he'd wanted to. He chose not to.
    Bernie ran in 2020 and lost. Lots of other people ran and lost too. There are no participation trophies, and only one winner.

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    He knows even if he did run and outdebated & out campaigned Joe he would have a deck stacked again against. The media and DNC/rnc decide who they want to endorse. And, if a candidate they dont want to see, becomes a contender, they will do whatever needed to tune public opinion. Thats politics.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Not trying to shit on Bernie, I like him a lot.
    But it's not some sort of conspiracy, it's the way the system works, and Bernie is well aware of how it works.
    He could have spent years kissing Clyburn's butt (and a whole lot of other butts), but he chose not to (or didn't do it well enough).
    It's not a conspiracy that a lot of democratic power brokers, elected officials, and donors supported Biden. Biden did the work required to gain that support.
    Nor is it a conspiracy when certain voters voted for Biden instead of Bernie, or Andrew Yang, or whoever.
    Voters are clearly capable of making choices we don't agree with or that make no sense at all, they do it all the time.
    You are absolutely correct, it's politics.

    barfo
     
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    Bernie chose to be honest and support policies that were actually good for the people. That obviously left him without many powerful friends. Because what is good for the people isn't good for what established powerful people want.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That's fair. But sometimes the way to get good things done for people is to make powerful friends. Politics frequently involves making that sort of compromise.

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    That's not the way our system is set up, as far as I can tell. You can't do the right thing if you have those friends.

    We'll have to change the system first.
     
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    I don't know how many times I heard from people who wanted to vote for Bernie, but were convinced he couldn't win because the media drilled that in their heads.

    That's called manufactured consent and is a party-wide conspiracy. It's true that it's politics as well.

    The system has scared people so much that they've got everyone falling in line. Even when all the polling shows a good 70-80% of the country agrees with Bernie's positions.
     
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    This is the kind of shit that Im talking about. It's the back room we cant let this happen stuff, which I guess is politics in its finest.

    Inside Hillary Clinton's Secret Takeover of the DNCPoliticohttps://www.politico.com › story › 2017/11/02 › clinto...
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    If that were an absolute truth nothing good would ever get done. And that's not the case.

    As long as we change it in the right direction, I'm in favor :)

    barfo
     
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    I don't think that's true. You can do something that is good for some people, but hurts more people long term. The right thing is to do the thing that is good for more people now and moving forward.

    Choosing not to do that, but do the lesser good for personal gains is wrong.

    These are the best "good" actions we get from our current system. We get goods that trade off the possibility of actual health.

    You can't do the right thing and be friends with the powers that be. They won't allow that.
     

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