Politics The New York Times Just Revealed a Second Trump Tower Meeting

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    Last July, the New York Times was the first to reveal Donald Trump Jr.’s much-scrutinized Trump Tower meeting with a Kremlin emissary who had promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton. Today, the Times followed up with another blockbuster report revealing that Trump Jr. took a second Trump Tower meeting before the election—this time, with an Israeli social media specialist, an emissary of two Arab crown princes, and Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater, a private military company now called Academi.

    The purpose of the meeting was to offer help for Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, and it took place three months before the election, the Times reports. The Israeli social media specialist, Joel Zamel, had drawn up a “multimillion-dollar proposal for a social media manipulation effort,” while the emissary, George Nader, told Trump Jr. that the crown princes of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates were “eager to help” Donald Trump win the 2016 election.

    Here are more details from the full report:

    It is unclear whether such a proposal was executed, and the details of who commissioned it remain in dispute. But Donald Trump Jr. responded approvingly, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting, and after those initial offers of help, Mr. Nader was quickly embraced as a close ally by Trump campaign advisers—meeting frequently with Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law, and Michael T. Flynn, who became the president’s first national security adviser. At the time, Mr. Nader was also promoting a secret plan to use private contractors to destabilize Iran, the regional nemesis of Saudi Arabia and the Emirates.



    The meetings, which have not been reported previously, are the first indication that countries other than Russia may have offered assistance to the Trump campaign in the months before the presidential election. The interactions are a focus of the investigation by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, who was originally tasked with examining possible Trump campaign coordination with Russia in the election.



    It is illegal for foreign governments or individuals to be involved in American elections, and it is unclear what—if any—direct assistance Saudi Arabia and the Emirates may have provided. But two people familiar with the meetings said that Trump campaign officials did not appear bothered by the idea of cooperation with foreigners.

    https://www.motherjones.com/politic...s-just-revealed-a-second-trump-tower-meeting/
     
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    Using private contractors to secretly spy in foreign countries was started by Obama. Both the CIA and our military intelegence operating in foreign countries have their hands tied by two different set of USA regulations. These different regulations are why the military is in charge of operations in Afganistan & Iraq. While the CIA is in charge of military operations in Packistan.

    The reason I mention this is whenever Obama wanted to get around these regulation, such as he did in Packistan, private contractors where used to gather info and help with operations.

    We probably would not have caught Bin Laden without the secret work the private contractors did.

    There a lot more to this story, but typing on a cell phone is not easy for me.
     
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    Blackwater during Bush's wars...the whole purpose of the Iran-Contra investigation was to discover how Reagan had privatized the Contra war...many other examples back to British-funded pirate terrorists like Blackbeard...all gathered info while they fought.
     
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    You are probably correct.

    However. What has change is. The CIA eliminated most of there foreing country spies. They now depend mostly on satellite and electronic intelegence. Rather than trying to rebuild in country spy networks. They now farm that work out to private contracting companies.
     
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