The one deal that makes total sense for me.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=la46yrf



Toronto Trades: Lowry
Toronto Receives: T. Young

Philly trades: S. Hawes
Philly receives: D. Wright, Mo Williams, M. Leonard and Will Barton

Portland Trades: D. Wright, Mo Williams, M. Leonard and Will Barton
Portland receives: S. Hawes, Kyle Lowry

Why does Toronto do it?
Lowry will be an unrestricted free agent this summer. I don't believe they can keep him and teams that are under cap can offer him some good money on probably a better location. They aren't really winning anything substantial, so they may need to reload. Adding Young would give them a solid player (borderline all-star capable) on a 3 year contract. They would most likely still make the playoffs and build this summer for the next go around.

Why does Philly do it?
Hawes is also a player that won't likely be back, especially since he knows Noel will most likely be back next season. T. Young is extremely unhappy with Philly openly tanking this season and asked to be traded. Adding the young pieces of Leonard and Barton is decent, knowing that they are totally tanking. Mo Williams and D. Wright will at least make the tank job somewhat entertaining for the fans. Most likely Mo will opt out of his contract this summer; which saves them cap space and playing time for their up and coming star PG.

Why does Portland do it?
Hawes and Lowry would be the perfect 1-2 bench players for our squad. They are semi-veteran and young enough to give us a long window of contention. This would help cut down Aldridge, Lopez and Dame's minutes. Toronto and Philly have the "Bird Rights" for Lowry and Hawes, so we can be over cap and still sign them for what they are worth. The reality is we trade players not getting significant burn, with the exception of Mo Williams and replace them with 2 players that are a solid scoring unit. Also, Lowry seems like a better PG than Williams too.

The reason why I think we can keep Hawes and Lowry easier than their current team is we have an owner willing to pay, as long as we are winning. We look to be in the thick of contention, especially if they come to Portland. Win win for all sides.

 

So Philly gets a big pile of shit for their two best players?

 

Yep. Guess you missed the memo that they are trying to tank? They actually don't want big pieces. This deal saves them 7 million in salary, plus they remove a 3 year contract from a player that asked to be traded.

 

Did it hurt him when he traded Eric Gordon?

 

We don't give up enough. I don't see anyone but us wanting to do it.

 

Coming from MM and his "keys to building a contender". They are going to tank. They want to tank. Everyone knows it. Their player asked to be traded because he said he doesn't want to tank. A tanking team is wanting to rebuild and lose as many games as they can. Young will not allow it. Hawes won't either. Hawes is an expiring contract that will not come back.

 

Toronto was rumored that they are shopping Lowry. Trading Lowry for Young is a good deal. Philly just saved 23 million (Young's remaining contract) in this deal. There is no way that Young and Hawes will allow Philly to tank. Only way to truly tank is find a team that can't win, even if they want to win.

 

Toronto had a deal in place for a first, shumpert and felton..... That looks a Hell of a lot better than young. Toronto wants to tank too, they want picks or to unload fields, not young.

 

I am pretty sure the Raptors need more considering they gave up a lottery pick for Lowry.

 

A first? What first? New York doesn't have a first to trade. Have you seen Shumpert this season? He looks like a big pile of dog shit. Felton is hardly a "OMG" player as well. They just traded for a PG anyway that looks to be the PG of their future. Look at the entire picture.

 

They should easily be able to get real pieces for Hawes and or Young. a first or two and a young player that has proven more than Leonar_

Horrible deal for Philly

 

Give them last year's 11th pick.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=km6yote

 

Not when that player is a unrestricted free agent. Only a winning club will be your trading partner. A team that needs a piece to get over the hump. If you have another "non-contending" team, what ever piece they trade could make them worse and no one willbe giving up any first rounder this season, especially ones that are worth a shit.

 

I am looking at the entire picture. We rape everyone in those deals. It was a 2018 first rounder, and I never said shumpert or Felton were omg players, but neither is young on a much shittier deal.

The raptors wants picks or to unload fields. We can do neither of those things. We will not get Kyle Lowry.

 

We need a trade thread for all these crazy trades to be put into. I'm guessing we will have a lot more rumors and trade threads the closer to the deadline and having one thread to put it all in might be nice.
Also that's a video game trade mags. We rape every team in both deals.
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The same argument is made. This year's first rounders will not be giving this season. At least any that are top 15. Also, teams that have talent to give to give away may not be good enough to keep the player.

 

Sometimes you can come out like this when teams are in a pickle. I think that applies with Toronto and Philly. Two players that will most likely leave and another that asked to be traded.