The Rookies

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  1. bbwTwinTowers

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    Predict the rookies stats this year

    Jameer Nelson-
    12.4 ppg
    3.1 rpg
    5.2 apg
    1.5 spg

    Dwight Howard-
    10.8 ppg
    6 rpg
    1.3 apg
    1.7 bpg
     
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    I don't see Nelson starting this year, unfortunately, so 10 points a game and maybe 3 assists a game. If he starts, obviously, those numbers would be up. He's one of the most NBA-ready guys IMO.

    As for Howard, I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict he gets 15 ppg and 10 rebounds a game.
     
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    Nelson 8 and 4 in about 15-20 mins of play.

    Dwight, I'll predict 12 and 6 and 1.5 blocks. He will show flashes of greatness and then the next game come out and look awful. It will balance out though.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting sportsrock37:</div><div class="quote_post">Nelson 8 and 4 in about 15-20 mins of play.

    Dwight, I'll predict 12 and 6 and 1.5 blocks. He will show flashes of greatness and then the next game come out and look awful. It will balance out though.</div>

    Nelson will be a very mature and ready leader when he comes on the floor for Steve, or with him

    10 ppg 4.5 ass

    Howard is watching tapes of KG and Duncan, and will develop quicker than people think

    14 ppg 8 reb 2 blk
     
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    Nelson: 12 ppg, 5 apg, 2.5 rpg, 1.2 spg
    Howard: 14 ppg, 1.5 apg, 7 rpg, 1.5 bpg
     
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    Nelson-
    11.4 ppg
    4.1 apg
    1.7 rpg

    He'll probably be the 6th Man, so he'll have a big role, which he's ready for after 4 years in college.

    Dwight Howard:
    12.5 ppg
    6.7 rpg
    1.3 apg
    1.1 bpg

    Like sportsrock said, he'll be inconsistent with flashes of greatness, and terrible games, but it'll likely just even it out.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Predict the rookies stats this year

    Jameer Nelson-
    12.4 ppg
    3.1 rpg
    5.2 apg
    1.5 spg

    Dwight Howard-
    10.8 ppg
    6 rpg
    1.3 apg
    1.7 bpg
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    are u saying Jameer Nelson will only get3 rebounds less than Howard? I just think Howard will average a lil more than 6 rebounds per game. i dont expect him to average a double double this season, so im saying about 8 rebounds for Howard. plus, Jameer Nelson will not start over Steve Francis. and if u think they might throw the franchise to the 2 spot, they wont cuz theres also cuttino. jameer will not start unless theres a freak accident w/ either cuttino or the franchise. i see him averageing 6-8 pts and 2 - 4 asts. and jameer nelson will not average more than 2 rebounds/game.
     
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    I think they should give Jameer a chance to start. He's a better point guard,fundamentally,than Franchise. Move Franchise to the 2 and let Nelson play the point and let Cuttino come off the pine for some instant offense. The only problem with that is that the backcourt would be kind of small.

    Nevertheless Jameer should get the opprotunity. Cuttino is nothin' but a gunner better suited as a Microwave Johnson type role and Franchise is not a good point guard,matter of fact Stevie is one of the worst open court point guards in the League IMO.
     
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    I agree with Dre.

    Nelson has the all around game, and dishes the ball off more than Francis does. Stevie could produce more as a started 2 guard anyhow. But like Dre said, we'd lose size in the backcourt because the two of them are smaller.

    In comparison to the rookie stats, I think Nelson will have the better season. He's got 4 more years under his belt, and he knows the game very well.

    Howard may have more points/rebounds, but that would probably be because he's going to recieve more minutes. I'll say Howard will average 13 points per game, 6 boards, and 1.3 blocks. As for Nelson, I'm not sure yet because it depends on the amount of minutes he recieves.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ice:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree with Dre.

    Nelson has the all around game, and dishes the ball off more than Francis does. Stevie could produce more as a started 2 guard anyhow. But like Dre said, we'd lose size in the backcourt because the two of them are smaller.

    In comparison to the rookie stats, I think Nelson will have the better season. He's got 4 more years under his belt, and he knows the game very well.

    Howard may have more points/rebounds, but that would probably be because he's going to recieve more minutes. I'll say Howard will average 13 points per game, 6 boards, and 1.3 blocks. As for Nelson, I'm not sure yet because it depends on the amount of minutes he recieves.</div>


    well another thing Jameer brings is leadership. I think he brings some essential floor leadership,granted he is stepping up from college but leadership is leadership.

    Last season he proved himself to be steady under pressure and a great point guard in difficult situations. Nothing to lose by starting him,he won't do any worse than Francis because like I said,from a point guard standpoint Francis isn't too good. Don't get me wrong he's a great player just better suited for the offguard spot.
     
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    Jameer Nelson
    8.4 ppg
    1.9 rpg
    4.1 apg
    1.3 spg

    Dwight Howard
    12.7 ppg
    6.7 rpg
    1.4 apg
    1.8 bpg
     
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    <u>Jameer Nelson:</u>
    11.3PPG
    3.1RPG
    4.4APG
    18.2MPG

    <u>Dwight Howard:</u>
    17.3PPG
    10.2RPG
    3.4APG
    1.2BPG
    35MPG

    Yes, I honestly think Dwight Howard will average 17, 10 and 3.
     
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    Two things :

    I don't see how every one is placing Nelson in double figures when Francis is on the floor pretty much the whole game.

    If Nelson is to average 2x figures, the only way this will happen is if Francis gets put in a AI situation and gets bumped to SG. This would make room for Nelson at PG and starting as well.
     
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    Jameer will average 12 points, 3 rebounds, 5 assists. The Howard will average 10.1 points, 6.7 rebounds, 1.5 assists per game or around there jameer will have a better rookie season then Howard who will be a project since he is coming out of the high school level.

    Jameer stayed all four years of school at st. joes and was college player of the year as well as leading st. joes to its first undefeated season and just coming short of the final four so he is a winner and will be ready for the nba. While Howard is no lebron he is going to play like KG did his rookie season and up his scoring as years go by.
     
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    I definetely undersand that Jameer is mature and ready to lead his team, but how is he going to get double digits in like 15 mins of play? Franchise will start at the PG spot and Mobley at the SG spot. Franchise plays most of the game anyway and Mobley plays a good 30-35 mins a game. Unless a big injury happens, then Jameer won't be getting enough mins to get double figures. From how everything stands right now(projected starters and without injuries) Dwight will get way more mins and will have a way better rookie year then Jameer. Jameer is more ready to play in the NBA in the rookie year, IMO, but that doesn't mean anything if he doesn't get the mins. If both were starting, I would project better numbers for Jameer, or at least close between them.
     
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    <u>Jameer Nelson:</u>
    14.6 MPG
    6.2 PPG
    2.4 RPG
    3.2 APG
    0.4 SPG

    <u>Dwight Howard:</u>
    30.8 MPG
    14.6 PPG
    8.3 RPG
    1.1 APG
    2.1 BPG
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dre:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Nevertheless Jameer should get the opprotunity. Cuttino is nothin' but a gunner better suited as a Microwave Johnson type role and Franchise is not a good point guard,matter of fact Stevie is one of the worst open court point guards in the League IMO.</div>You're very right. Jameer Nelson should be the primary ballhandler and distributor for the Magic. It's not that Francis can't dribble, it's just that he is not a good, stable point guard, and he still is not an efficient passer. Mobley should be brought off the bench and play whenever Nelson or Francis sits, and bring instant offense to the game. The size problem in a backcourt of Nelson and Francis, however, could be fixed if the Magic play a zone defense, and the big frontcourt rotation of Cato, Battie and Howard could more than make up for the lack of backcourt size. All in all, the option of starting Nelson is there, it's just up to Davis whether he does start or not.
     
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    Jameer Nelson
    12.4 PPG
    4.5 RPG
    4.1 apg
    1.3 spg

    Dwight Howard
    16.4 PPG
    10.5 RPG
    3.5 APG
    1.8 BPG
     
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    Hmmm...

    Interesting to see how wrong everyone was...
     

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