OT The Shooting of Patrick Lyoya

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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Patrick Lyoya was shot in the head by a Grand Rapids police officer, on April 4th, as he lay on the ground face down with the cop on top of him.

    Lyoya had been pulled over and then ran from the cop on feet. The officer caught up with Lyoya and gained control before he decided to take out his taser. The officer and Lyoya struggled over the taser which went off twice not hitting either of them.

    The officer laying over Lyoya still trying to get back control, held Lyoya down, took out his gun and shot Lyoya in the back of the head execution style. During the struggle the officers body camera was turned off, but a bystander caught the shooting on video.



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  2. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    Let's give the police more money
     
  3. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    They should be better trained and paying them more, should increase the quality of the officers.

    The higher the pay, the higher the caliber of the officers would be. I mean, that's how it works with teachers, doesn't it?
     
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    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    Try to fight a cop and grab their weapon off of them and see how it works out for you.
     
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    crandc Well-Known Member

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    Funny coincidence, what color was he again? I'm sure that is just chance because there is no such thing as systemic racism!
     
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  6. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Here's the full video:

     
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    jonnyboy Well-Known Member

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    More white people are killed by police than any other race.
     
  8. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Teachers don't shoot people in the back of the head ... generally
     
  9. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Yeah, they only sleep with their underage students.
     
  10. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Most teachers don't do that.
     
  11. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Most cops don't shoot people in the back of the head.
     
  12. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    There are alot more cops out there killing people than there are deviant teachers.

    Im not here to compare the two anyway.

    This is a thread about a murderer cop, not about a teacher
     
  13. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Then again, we need better cops and better trained cops. That takes more money.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Paying police more is not going to stop the ones who do this.
     
  15. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    If you pay more, you'll attract a higher caliber candidate. And the less qualified candidates will be filtered out due to competition.

    Also, ensuring that the police are well trained and frequently tested for competence costs money as well.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Hmmmm.....

    There was 696,644 full time law enforcement in America in 2020.
    1009 police shootings in the last year https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/

    That's not even 1% of cops. It's 0.0014%

    In 2017-2018 there was 3.3 million teachers in the US.
    Not sure how credible this article is but.... https://childrenstreatmentcenter.com/sexual-abuse-teachers/
    • Of children in 8th through 11th grade, about 3.5 million students (nearly 7%) surveyed reported having had physical sexual contact from an adult (most often a teacher or coach). The type of physical contact ranged from unwanted touching of their body, all the way up to sexual intercourse.
    • This statistic increases to about 4.5 million children (10%) when it takes other types of sexual misconduct into consideration, such as being shown pornography or being subjected to sexually explicit language or exhibitionism.
     
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    CJ_is_Gone Well-Known Member

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    There are a lot of other factors that go into this.

    Culture & and personal decisions make up 80%-90% of the issue.
     
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    And those personal decisions overwhelmingly include being born Black or Brown.
     
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    "Most often a teacher or a coach" throws out the percentage as being kind of worthless, no?
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Not saying it’s perfect. I think a lot of cases of abuse, not just from teachers, go unreported. I just was curious about the topic and this was the first thing I found. But police shootings are very documented. We know exactly how many happen each year.
     

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