What is your overall feeling towards our government? Do you feel that they do a good job and are fair to the citizens? Do you think they're arrogant genocidal pricks? Do we have enough freedom in this country as comapred to other nations? Is our government motivated by money and power or the well being of the American citizens? Do we interfere with the affairs of other nations which don't concern us too easily? Discuss.
Im pretty comfrotable on what we have going on. Neaither a fan of Bush or Kerry. I try to keep my nose of out politics and the government, kinda makes me sick to the stomachBut I will state...North Korea is underrated, were focused in all those middle east guys. You never know about North Korea. They could get their revenge. Because we helped out South Korea back then
<Censored> North Korea and Iran, they're not going to fire nuclear weapons at us or any of our allies, we need to stay away from situations like that. How about Congo? Millions of people die there every year but they don't give a <Censored>. Our government is responsible for genocide, it's sickening.Maybe the U.S. wouldn't have so many enemies if we didn't start with wars with nations that posed no threat to us just for the financial gain of a few government officials, and concentrated our resoruces on areas where people need help, like Africa and even areas in our own country. It's not our job to police the world and invade nations when they step out of line, we should be using our power for the good of humanity.I can understand a nation like Israel focusing much of it's effort and moneny into military causes, because other countries in the middle east have made it their goal to "wipe Israel off the map." They have to do this for their survival, they've had enemies there for thousands of years. The U.S. has or had no direct enemies, we've created this hatred towards us by starting unecessary wars which have cost millions of lives.I just think we should be dealing with the issues in our own nation before we go trying to deal with everyone else's problems.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>How about Congo? Millions of people die there every year but they don't give a <Censored>. Our government is responsible for genocide, it's sickening.</div>Thats when U2 and Bono come in handy <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Maybe the U.S. wouldn't have so many enemies if we didn't start with wars with nations that posed no threat to us just for the financial gain of a few government officials</div>That makes since. But look at Iraq, all those taliban groups. The US felt a threat from them. They bomed our towers. I think we had to get involved with them. If not I might not be posting right now
the whole reason they bombed our towers IS BECAUSE of what just blaze said earlier.WE got our noses into something WE shouldn't of. we went into other countries to help them out. we turned the tides of some stuff we shouldn't have. we should of just minded our own business and should of focused on ourselves.look, of course we went in with good intentions. but sometimes we shouldn't do anything.and i'm not saying that 9/11 was our fault. but if you look at the facts, are you surprised? really? it wasn't right what they did. it wasn't. they deserve to burn in hell for what they did. but it wasn't out of nowhere people. it wasn't out of nowhere.
These warzones where we are right now are just breeding grounds for more terrorists and anti-U.S. thinking, things aren't going to change soon.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lazy @ Mar 27 2006, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That makes since. But look at Iraq, all those taliban groups. The US felt a threat from them. They bomed our towers. I think we had to get involved with them. If not I might not be posting right now</div>I wouldn't go that far, but maybe Afghanistan was necessary. Regardless, there's no reason we should be in Iraq right now.
America has done some terrible things in the middle east but nothing to justify what the terrorists are doing. We support Israel for obvious reasons, we keep troops in Saudi Arabia because they are an 'ally' with us. But we could stop supporting Israel and stop doing what they hate us for and they would still attack us regardless. We are not a muslim country and we are the biggest kid on the block and to make us look bad needs no reason. If we did change they would attack us for what we did in the past, they would attack us for not being muslims, they would attack us for supporting their bad goverments...etc. We had to invade Afghanistan, any president would have. We needed to take the Taliban out.
I understand that we would still have Muslim extremists attacking us, but by doing what we're doing around the world we're just creating more people who hate America, and they're the ones joining these Muslin groups and terrorizing us.
Afghanistan was probably necessary as they were a legitimate threat, but Saddam was not going to do anything to us. Why would any of these nations launch weapons of mass destruction against the most powerful military in the world?
Yes, I understand that. Regardless the regime that was in power supported and harbored terrorists so they had to be exterminated.
Yes, well we can't fight them all. I just think the whole weapons of mass destruction thing is ridiculous. No one is going to use them against us, we're allied with all the major western powers and the nation who instigates a was with us will be obliterated.
Your too in general on 'the government', you need to say the office. The government isn't just the office. It is in every sigle state. My parents work for a branch of government, my mom for Minerals Manegement Servince and my dad for Rocky Flats(closed, but he does other stuff also).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBlaze @ Mar 27 2006, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I understand that we would still have Muslim extremists attacking us, but by doing what we're doing around the world we're just creating more people who hate America, and they're the ones joining these Muslin groups and terrorizing us.</div>Terrorizing us? Muslims haven't done <Censored>. Besides 9/11 that's bout it, America is the one terrorizing the crap out of the Iraqis in Iraq. People are always like "oh, look at all those americans dying in iraq", well no one has said "oh the americans are killing those innocent iraqis". most iraqis are scared as <Censored> back there. and muslims aren't all extremists, and it doesn't say in the Quran to bomb places or be evil to women. In the Quran it states to be kind to women and treat them better than us it self. All those BS cartoons making fun of our prophet is sickening. Take a look at what America has done to our reputation before you start saying we terrorize them for no reason. don't get me wrong I don't like the taliban, I'm a muslim but I was born and raised in America and I'm a U.S. citizen and I live in NY and I was in NY during 9/11 and I could've died but what people say about us just irritates me so much.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AirBlaze @ Apr 1 2006, 02:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Terrorizing us? Muslims haven't done <Censored>. Besides 9/11 that's bout it, America is the one terrorizing the crap out of the Iraqis in Iraq. People are always like "oh, look at all those americans dying in iraq", well no one has said "oh the americans are killing those innocent iraqis". most iraqis are scared as <Censored> back there. and muslims aren't all extremists, and it doesn't say in the Quran to bomb places or be evil to women. In the Quran it states to be kind to women and treat them better than us it self. All those BS cartoons making fun of our prophet is sickening. Take a look at what America has done to our reputation before you start saying we terrorize them for no reason. don't get me wrong I don't like the taliban, I'm a muslim but I was born and raised in America and I'm a U.S. citizen and I live in NY and I was in NY during 9/11 and I could've died but what people say about us just irritates me so much.</div> Yes, treat women well by keeping them covered and humiliated, keep them from getting an education and following their dreams, give them very little rights which is the case in many countries. I understand the religious differences and that we are different societies and that the Koran says that women are equal but it is not true. The Koran says that women are equal but Islam is being used to control women right now. I agree with you that terrorism is vastly overdone and overreported all over the world. Terrorism is used by western goverments to further kick open the door to the middleeast and to keep it's foot in the door to ensure our energy needs. Our media is racist and so are many Americans, every terrorist attack gets us all enraged and mad when we let gangs run the streets and kill innocents. A gang can kill 7 people one night but if a couple muslims bomb a half empty hotel in Saudi Arabia it becomes worldwide news. Why? I don't know. I think it could be the media and goverments using muslims far away and confusing religion to keep us dumb on the subject. We see a bunch of babbling extremeists blowing up a hotel and it pisses us off...but like I said...if a gang kills a bunch of people a few miles away we don't treat it as serious.
Muslims don't make women cover themself and not let them get a education. that's the taliban and Iraq and afghanistan besides that look around the world. india, bangladesh, pakistan and look at america. all my family all the women in my family have education went to college, and have jobs. so don't mix up muslims with that taliban trash because i don't even consider them muslims because they are the exact opposite of what muslims are or are supposed to be.
