What are your thoughts on this? Do you honestly think that you need to be book smart to surive in life?I am 70/30 on this, Education is the most important thing to have right now but I also feel there are alot of people who dropped out of High School that do jobs better than most people who spent time in college.
You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq.
You don't need booksmarts to survive, but it helps a lot. I think that right now, education <u>should</u> be the number one priority for high school. Work, sports, females, etc. <u>should</u> be all after. But of course, people put sports and girls before school, and right now you can't blame them, but in the future, you might regret it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Nov 2 2006, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq.</div> I don't think Tony could post from Iraq...omgz.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Nov 2 2006, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think Tony could post from Iraq...omgz.</div>That's not what the quote said, but I didn't really say it, either.
If you want a good salary you should have book smarts. Lots of people are always like "So many people haven't been to college and became rich" when really the majority of people who didn't go to college have lived an ok life and sometimes living paycheck by paycheck so I think it is important if you want to live a life when you can do fun things like vacation.That's just my opinion.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Camby23Land @ Nov 2 2006, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you want a good salary you should have book smarts. Lots of people are always like "So many people haven't been to college and became rich" when really the majority of people who didn't go to college have lived an ok life and sometimes living paycheck by paycheck so I think it is important if you want to live a life when you can do fun things like vacation.That's just my opinion.</div>Yeah, that's pretty much exactly it. If you want a probable chance of getting good money, you should go to college. The percentage of people who drop out of high school and get good money is pretty low. Even with people who only graduate high school this is becoming more and more true. The odds of you dropping out and becoming a millionaire is really low, but those few stories are often more told than those of failure.Someone who had taken an upper-level math course, a stat course, or probabilities course would know that, but obviously those that are uneducated haven't.
I think an education is very important. Knowledge is power. if you look at people with low paying jobs, they almost exclusivly are people who have little to no education, either because of their own incompetence, or because they are still engaging in their education. The Opposite can be said about the higher paying jobs, with the exception of talent occupations.now the comment by Kerry was just stupid. he was soldier during Vietnam, so was he stupid? also insulting the soldiers wont help him or his party. this is why the republicans and the Bush administation are so dominate over the democrats. people like Kerry make the rest look bad.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Nov 2 2006, 09:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>now the comment by Kerry was just stupid. he was soldier during Vietnam, so was he stupid?</div>Yes that is how it came out, but you know darn well that is not what he was saying.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Nov 2 2006, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yes but people rarely listen to what a politician means, they listen to what he says.</div>Because critical thinking is a lost art.
I think education is important. But I think school would be more accepted by younger people if it was different. I dont know what the name for it is but they do it any foreign countries and it seems to work. Pretty much, you decide what your interests are and after your basics..algebra,english, etc. for one year, you only take classes for what you want to become. If you dont want to be a chemist, you dont take chemistry. I would love that system. I would be taking Geography, US History, World History for all my classes. I would love school then. But either way, it is important. I mean, now you have to graduate from highschool to work at McDonalds.(only if your not in school still)
I agree with that, I think it would make school a lot better. I was lucky enough to go to a high school were during my senior year I could chose which curriculum I wanted to study.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1331 @ Nov 2 2006, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Because critical thinking is a lost art.</div>
This is a subject I'm very opinionated on. First of all, I don't mean to be elitist but we have to go into the debate bearing in mind that the majority of the country is ignorant and conformist.The current education system is called the factory system of education. In the 1920s people thought "wow, factories are working really well, lets use a factory style environment to get children to learn".The problem with this is that in the nineteen twenties the administration's official position was that eighth grade was all the education somebody needed to succeed in life. So the people who actually graduated high school were the type with drive and initiative. So they could teach more or less the same things to all the students. Like an assembly line.Eighty years later, kids are expected to graduate high school and take the same classes. Because of this, the factory method fails. It is like trying to build a bicycle when the stuff that comes to you on the conveyor belt is anything from a piece of scrap metal to a quad core processor. You have to improvise on how to make a bicycle out of it and the results are often unsatisfactory. The factory system had too much invested in it to end, so it had to have another use found in it.The vast majority of the people who vote are ill-informed and ignorant. Both parties want to keep it that way. So they thought the way to keep people ill-informed was to start trying to fit everybody through a round hole, if they're a square beg sobeit. The education system became a machine designed to walk the thin line ofA) Teaching proficiency on a range of subjectswhileB) Keeping the middle class conformingC) Keeping the lower class off the streetsD) Keeping the upper class as the upper classHow did they do this? They made standards that were unachievable for schools as a whole. This was so the teachers were always playing catchup. Even the best teachers would at times have to say "all of you go home, read this chapter and do these questions" without teaching anything just to get through what they were supposed to get through.This made teachers and the system not very amenable to kids who were outside the norm. John Lennon once said "They hate you if you're clever and they despise a fool" and it is so true. As a result, the kids who did think for themselves would often be discouraged and get worse grades, attempting to influence the kids due to peer pressure.This leads one to the inevitable conclusion that school is designed to fill the mind while dulling the wits.Agh, I practically just rewrote the pedagogy of the oppressed. I'm out.
