Blackhawks trade first-round pick and a prospect to Arizona for Antoine Vermette, still pending NHL trade call
Not sure I think about it. Sather should've made the move to get Vermette last week or earlier before the Hawks got involved. Now I don't see any move for Sather to make that is worth making. Hopefully they can get Zucc resigned because we don't have good leverage with trading him because teams know we want to move him now instead of lose him for nothing. Will be interesting.
LOL come on with the last week or earlier. Couldn't be more of silly second guess than that. The Rangers have been the hottest team in the league. They certainly weren't desperate to make a deal.
Are you serious? Yea, they've been hot beating mediocre teams but you could see the flaws all season long. Physical forward who can win faceoffs , and a physical dman. Things we've all known we need for a while now.
I'll disagree with you on this one Mess. Not that I am going to say we should have made a deal last week, most of us thought Maloney would hold up until the DL or close to it, but we need to add players. This team as is will not win a cup. We are not deep enough upfront or on D to win 4 playoff rounds IMO. I wanted Winnik, we let him pass. I wanted Vermette, we let him pass (can't go crazy because we dodn't have a 1st...but another player off the board none the less). I wanted Gleason, we let him pass. I just don't know what Sather is doing here. Like I said this AM, I don't think we need these big time players, but we do need a solid bottom 6 forward and a solid 3rd pair dman added IMO. Time is running out for Sather to get it done. 41 hours left Glen...are you awake???
And that has to do with what their weaknesses are how? Teams can win and still have weaknesses and address them. We needed a Vermette for faceoffs. You really think losing 70% of faceoffs isn't a big issue come playoff time? Ok. Well then it'll be a quick exit for us if we can't fix that. We are horrible on the PP because A) we won't shoot but more importantly B) we lose the offensive zone faceoff and lose 30 seconds of zone time and have to struggle to get it set up. In the playoffs, special teams is very important. But you keep your head buried in the sand and think we don't need anything. I think 'Hawks overpaid for a rental, but they get a guy who they need. Rangers need someone to win important faceoffs and we lack that.
They don't have a first round pick to give up because of the deal they made last season. What would you like them to do? Other teams can make better deals sometimes so you need to get over it. To tell me they should've known Kane would get hurt and Chicago would be a heavy player in the trade market is just silly.
I am not crazy upset about Vermette since they got a 1st, but other deals were/are there for us. Will Sather do anything...
We've all been saying to get Vermette for a couple of weeks now. If they made the move them, Blackhawks aren't involved. Sather has been asleep this trade season. This is 2012 all over again. Look, I get that Chicago made a better offer than us. I get that. But Sather should've pulled the trigger on any of these other trade possibilities we've all discussed sooner. Now there's fewer players out there of a position we need and teams can keep demanding more as the trade DL draws closer.
Meanwhile most deals in the league take place on deadline day. Can we just stop the silliness. You have no idea but the Coyotes were asking from the Rangers. I swear some people complain just to do so.
I think the better point is Maloney I think wanted to wait until right up to or near the DL. Is what it is. We still have let many players that could help us pass. If Sather does nothing it is a joke Mess.
My point is can we let this play out before going with the doom and gloom. Callahan for St. Louis wasn't a half ass deal.