This Organization Needs to Change Their Mindset

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BonesJones

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In my opinion, this organization adopts the mindset of a pretender, not a contender. From the coach, to the GM, to a large portion of the fanbase. Regardless of whether you believe our roster, health, coach, or GM is good enough, it's apparent to me that the overall mindset and aura of the team will have to change if they actually want to get to where they want to go.

I'm going to compare a contending mindset and a "pretender" mindset, and I want you guys to think about which fits the Portland Trail Blazers.

1.) Contenders make the most of what they're given, pretenders talk about why they can't.
2.) Contenders are accountable and look for ways to improve, pretenders brush off their flaws as either unfixable or as "no big deal"
3.) Contenders don't rely on excuses, they simply try to improve. Pretenders make excuses.
4.) Contenders aren't happy with anything but top-level success, pretenders are happy with anecdotal success, moral victories, and marginal success

You can come up with more comparisons, but to me, the Blazers fall squarely under the "pretender" category.

1.) All season long, we heard excuses for why the Blazers couldn't have any sort of success while they lost to teams like Golden State (without their entire starting 5) , New Orleans (without Ingram or Zion), New York (by 24), Cleveland (without Love), Minnesota (by 14), etc.

Teams will lose these games, but these would be unacceptable losses by a team with a contender mindset, especially if they still had their top 2 players. However, all we heard was why they couldn't win these games. Why it was too difficult for them to take care of business against these teams. We didn't have enough to take care of business. These losses were brushed off with an attitude as if it was "just one game" and therefore not important. This was from the fanbase, but I also got this feeling from Terry Stotts as well.

This extends to Neil Olshey as well, who constantly talk about how free agents won't come to Portland, how they have "limited tools at their disposal", among other things. Whether this is true or not, these are excuses for him not doing a better job as our GM. The top GMs in the league wouldn't focus on this limitations, they'd get creative and try to figure out how to make the most of the situation they're given instead of bemoaning their limitations. Olshey doesn't seem to have that mindset.

2.) Speaking of Terry Stotts, his lack of accountability all season long was disturbing. I rarely (if ever) heard him say he could've done a better job. I rarely heard him go in-depth on the issues plaguing the team and how they needed to be fixed. The general narrative was "They made some shots, we missed some shots, we're injured, what can we do".

3.) How many times did we hear how we couldn't do certain things? How we didn't have the personnel to improve defensively over the course of the season. How we didn't have the personnel to do anything more than run one defensive scheme (which we ranked 28th in defensively). How many times did we hear "we didn't make shots" as a blanket excuse for any issues are offense had during the course of a game?

4.) Now the organization and fanbase is talking about how their happy with how things went. How their proud. Note that they just took a step back from a WCF trip to losing in the 1st round in 5 games. But I'm sure that was due to (insert excuse here)...

BONUS: We've seen how this team plays down to their competition and how they get complacent when they're up big in games. Are we sure this wouldn't happen in regards to overall regular season success across multiple games? Are we sure these awful mental lapses would fix themselves just by having a "better roster"? I don't think they would.

I don't like the vibe coming from the organization. I love this team and want to see them contend, but the mindset isn't there, at all. I also don't believe it's just going to happen with a better roster, as I think our coach, GM, and a large portion of our fanbase have adopted this mindset.

I'm a die-hard fan, I want us to contend, and badly. Sometimes I wonder if that want isn't matched by the organization itself. I know a lot of people will reply telling me why I'm wrong while using the excuses that I outlined here, but that might prove my point. Or maybe I'm wrong. I'm not sure.
 
Bones. Not that i disagree but 29 other teams lose every year. Do you think of those teams who made it to the playoff but dont win, are also like this?
 
If the NY Knicks can't do it, despite being in the city that has the best claim to being the capitol of the WORLD, can we really expect it out of little-ol' Portland?

But here, let's make it short and sweet:
1. Fire Olshey
2. Hire Masai Ujiri (somehow)

It's about as realistic as any suggestion, and a lot shorter.

Or how about this:
Allow Nike to get involved in team ownership. THEN you'd have something. Somehow I doubt the rest of the league would approve, though.
 
I don't quite understand loving this team except for the vibe, GM coach roster and majority of the fans that cheer for them.....there are other teams with different cultures to cover and cheer for....I enjoy Blazer basketball so put me in the category of fans that accept and actually like the team for what they are....they weren't winning a championship for quite a few reasons this season..mostly health in my view. I agree with Dame's view on the team, not this take presented here. Nobody cheering is pretending to be a Blazer fan....not liking virtually anything about the organization and franchise or trusting the direction might be pretending to be a fan.....the bottom line for enjoying sports doesn't need to entail being a dynasty or bust. I'd say to most fanbases it's the same as far as support and fans. I'm a Beaver fan...they're rarely going to beat the Ducks in anything but baseball. Doesn't rile me up though
 
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I don't quite understand loving this team except for the vibe, GM coach roster and majority of the fans that cheer for them.....there are other teams with different cultures to cover and cheer for....I enjoy Blazer basketball so put me in the category of fans that accept and actually like the team for what they are....they weren't winning a championship for quite a few reasons this season..mostly health in my view. I agree with Dame's view on the team, not this take presented here.
I was happy this year. They tried something different. Dame and CJ DO NOT WORK together defensively
 
Surprise me....anybody think Melo would be a Blazer at the beginning of the season? I sure didn't.....I didn't think Gary Trent would emerge before Ant did either...part of the fun of a season

Melo? Of course not. He’s the product of an unforeseen injury to a starter. GT2? He’s surprised me with how quickly he’s emerged this year, but not that he’s getting there faster than Ant. Ant has more athleticism and “potential”, but his limitations are mental. For some guys, those limitations slow you down, for others they keep you from ever reaching your potential. GT2 never had any mental limitations. The jury is out on whether Simons can get past his.
 
Bones. Not that i disagree but 29 other teams lose every year. Do you think of those teams who made it to the playoff but dont win, are also like this?

Very few of the other teams have:

  • A 1st/2nd team All-NBA guard the likes of Damian Lillard
  • A center with the skills of Jusuf Nurkic
  • A top 2 scoring backcourt
  • A backup center who just got DPoY votes and was one of the top rebounders/shotblockers in the league
@BonesJones ....well stated. Similar to a long time local media member I spoke to who intimated many of the same things. There are some things Stotts just has been stagnant with that he was never very good at in the first place.

  • Defense/defensive adjustments
  • Ball movement other than ISO/handoffs
  • Limiting 3-pt makes
  • Easy fast break points
  • Creating turnovers

Dame/CJ are very good at creating their own, often difficult shot and making a good percentage of those. But that will be adjusted to in the Playoffs and Portlands 'high offensive regular season ranking' takes a nose dive. And in 8 years, has Stotts come up with ONE SINGLE ADJUSTMENT to the Playoff trap that every single Blazer fan knows is coming?
 
Very few of the other teams have:

  • A 1st/2nd team All-NBA guard the likes of Damian Lillard
  • A center with the skills of Jusuf Nurkic
  • A top 2 scoring backcourt
  • A backup center who just got DPoY votes and was one of the top rebounders/shotblockers in the league
@BonesJones ....well stated. Similar to a long time local media member I spoke to who intimated many of the same things. There are some things Stotts just has been stagnant with that he was never very good at in the first place.

  • Defense/defensive adjustments
  • Ball movement other than ISO/handoffs
  • Limiting 3-pt makes
  • Easy fast break points
  • Creating turnovers

Dame/CJ are very good at creating their own, often difficult shot and making a good percentage of those. But that will be adjusted to in the Playoffs and Portlands 'high offensive regular season ranking' takes a nose dive. And in 8 years, has Stotts come up with ONE SINGLE ADJUSTMENT to the Playoff trap that every single Blazer fan knows is coming?
Gary
Trent
Jr.

too early to say he is the answer?
 
That’s probably true also. Depression is a horrible affliction
It is possible to be depressed without moaning about specific things. And in fact, if your team is making you MORE depressed, then you need to find another team or learn to find enjoyment from your team, warts and all. Part of what is frustrating about a sports team is that you can't change it. It is what it is. So if you can't love it as it is, take up a hobby where you are in control.
 
Neither of which is likely to happen.
It’s not likely to happen because of Neil. He like the guys he draft. There’s a lot of possibility of who you can get when you put CJ and Collins on the market.

And bones Jones is right. There is no accountability in this organization. This is where I don’t like Damian, and it’s the only thing okay haha, he’s not competitive enough where he will want to trade someone. He need to be like LeBron and Kobe where if they see a player not good enough, they will be sure to get someone better. If Damian truly wanted to win a champ he would’ve noticed that CJ can’t be his backcourt mate a long time ago. I do respect Damian loyalty which is incredible but he can’t complain about not winning when he’s not doing anything about it
 
It’s not likely to happen because of Neil. He like the guys he draft. There’s a lot of possibility of who you can get when you put CJ and Collins on the market.

And bones Jones is right. There is no accountability in this organization. This is where I don’t like Damian, and it’s the only thing okay haha, he’s not competitive enough where he will want to trade someone. He need to be like LeBron and Kobe where if they see a player not good enough, they will be sure to get someone better. If Damian truly wanted to win a champ he would’ve noticed that CJ can’t be his backcourt mate a long time ago. I do respect Damian loyalty which is incredible but he can’t complain about not winning when he’s not doing anything about it

Of course there is accountability in the organization. The Blazers have the highest payroll in the league this year. Jody Allen is spending a ton of money and no doubt expects results. That said, the team wasn’t able to field anything like their full roster this year. There’s no way to know how close the Blazers could have been to a title run if the injury bug hadn’t bitten so hard. I know many here will say that’s just an excuse. I doubt that Jody Allen or the rest of the Blazers organization feels that way. IMO, they will want to build on what they have, but still see the real world testing of the basic roster that have assembled before deciding to make wholesale changes. I could be wrong, and maybe there is a big deal that will make sense, but my bet is that we see pretty much the same roster next season. Hopefully, healthy.
 
@BonesJones what's your 5 step plan for this offseason to go from where we are to where we need to go?

Keep in mind the economic impact and uncertainty brought about by the pandemic
 
The franchise probably does need changes major ones... But they wont happen so guess we’ll have this same discussion next offseason whenever that is...
 
One thing I don't see a lot movement by us or any other team due to the lost of revenue this year. But we need to balance out roster out though. If it has to be through trades or from FA. We had a lot of years with Dame and CJ leading the way and only once it got us to WCF. Neil really need to go another direction with though 2. I would see what I could get for CJ and if it was worth while I would make the trade if not then go as usual. Stotts is nice guy and the players love him but I really think it has run course with at the helm.
 

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