Thus endeth the debate

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    http://www.nba.com/rookie-ladder/

    Case closed. The hardware is his.
     
  2. Blazinaway

    Blazinaway Well-Known Member

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    what debate?
     
  3. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RipCity

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    The most exciting rookie since Lebron James
     
  4. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    He's just a stat whore!!

    /sarcasm

    on a serious note, those are impressive stats/numbers. However, you can tweak #'s sometimes to look better than they are, although I'm not sure that is the case here.

    He does have work to do on his game, no doubt, but he's sure having a really strong rookie year. Maybe other players will end up being better than he is (Barnes, Davis, Beal, for example, maybe even K-Gillgrist), but right now he's putting up the best #'s of all of them.

    Maybe he's not as showy or highlight worthy, but neither was Brandon Roy. But Brandon Roy still was the best player of his class.
     
  5. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    I wonder what would of happened if we moved up in last year's draft. Who would we have taken? For our needs, we got the best possible player. Not that the others will not eventually be good as well. But in today's NBA you have to have a scoring PG. Can't pass on one when they are available.

    Westbrook, Irving, Rose, Wall, Lillard, Parker, Curry, DWill (Before he got out of shape) Lawson

    Cp3 is kind of the rare exception. Although like Stockton before him, he scores when the game is on the line.
     
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    Blazinaway Well-Known Member

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    I thought he was referring ROY debate of which there is none, unless someone wants to make it up
     
  7. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

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    Is there a rookie of the month in April? I don't remember - it's a short month in the NBA. Just wondering how many more ROM's Dame needs to run the table.

    BTW, I've heard the Kings, who drafted no. 5, are really unhappy with Thomas Robinson and kicking themselves for passing on Damian. So nice to see someone else saying "why didn't we draft X?"
     
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    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    I assumed that since they have already traded him. What was the knock on him? Any ideas?
     
  9. Wizard Mentor

    Wizard Mentor Wizard Mentor

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    It's amazing his stats are so good considering that when I watch him play I think he's too unselfish.
     
  10. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    The maloofs dumped him because it saved them a million bucks. I think he got drafted into a terrible situation and I wouldn't be shocked if he rebounds into a nice player down the line.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    Lillard preplanned this years ago when he made Ronnie Price his buddy. He knew that his Rookie of the Year day would come when he would ask Olshey last summer, "What can you do for my journeyman friend?"
     
  12. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    It has been pretty obvious for a while that the ROY race was over, but a few people have posted things like "but Anthony Davis blah blah blah"....

    I'm just saying, I'm pretty sure the race is over.
     
  13. illmatic99

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    Disregarding their injury history, would you take rookie Roy over rookie Dame?
     
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    I am sayin IT IS AND HAS BEEN OVER for a while now, but if ya wanna yack more about it have at it
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    These are Roy's numbers in Jan, Feb, March, and April of 2007. This was after he returned from his talus bone thing.

    Jan: 16 games, 35mpg, 45% FG, 38% 3pt, 4.8rebs, 3.4asts, 16.6pts
    Feb: 11 games, 38mpg, 45% FG, 39% 3pt, 3.4rebs, 4.9asts, 17.2pts
    Mar: 14 games, 38mpg, 47% FG, 40% 3pt, 5.4rebs, 4.8asts, 18.4pts
    Apr: 5 games, 36mpg, 53% FG, 57% 3pt, 4.4 rebs, 4.2asts, 21.2pts

    Overall: 57games, 35mpg, 46% FG, 38% 3pt, 4.4rebs, 4.0asts, 16.8pts
     
  16. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    The Kings sure do have an uncanny knack for acquiring power forwards they can't/don't use and then giving up on them after less than a full season.

    BNM
     
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    That is a good question. Disregarding their injury history i think i would take Dame over Roy and Oden.
    The reason for me is how the game has evolved. I firmly believe that a PG like Damian has a bigger impact on the game than any other position. A injury free Roy would have been awesome. I loved Roy's game. But a really good scoring PG is really tough to stop if he has great handles and quickness. (And he can shoot)
     
  18. mook

    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Very tough call. On one hand, it is a league dominated by PG's like Lillard. On the other, there are so few good shooting guards anymore that if you have one it's a really handy asset. It forces opponents to play differently.

    In the end, I was really, really tired of crummy point guard play. Other than a year and a half of Miller, you have to go back to the 1990's to find a decent Blazer PG. Bonzi and Smith (and for a short time there DA) were good SG's so the longing for me wasn't as strong. After such a long drought I think I just enjoy watching Lillard play more than I ever did watching Roy.
     
  19. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    That makes sense. But Roy's efficiency and finishing ability would put him over Dame for me. Either way, both were clearly the RsOY over their counterparts. Let's hope that the NO announcer doesn't pull a Swirsky.
     
  20. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    It's awfully early to tell, but right now I might actually take Dame over Roy.

    The biggest thing for me is that Dame can play off the ball when he wants to, or it's necessary. Roy never could do that. He had to have the ball in his hands.
     

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