Timberwolves should trade for Allen Iverson

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  1. Ice

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Summer will soon return, NBA maneuvering will start and advancing farther in the playoffs will take more imagination from Wolves owner Glen Taylor and basketball boss Kevin McHale. And here's the answer: Wally Szczerbiak and Michael Olowokandi to Philadelphia for Allen Iverson.

    The salary matches would almost work. The 76ers could start fresh without Iverson. And coach Flip Saunders -- with the usual assist from Garnett -- could show us it's true that he can get most anyone to fit with the program.</div>
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    ANiMuS JBB JustBBall Member

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    The Sixers aren't that desperate to get rid of Iverson.
     
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    The Sixers wouldn't do that trade. The Sixers already said that they want Allen back in Philly. Even so, the trade isn't fair. Wally and Olowokandi aren't the same value as AI. With Olowokandi's dismal performance in the playoffs, I don't think the Sixers would want him. They also already have Sam, a rising star. This is just a bad trade for the Sixers. But if I was the Timberwolves, I would like this trade.
     
  4. Avery

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Sixers wouldn't do that trade. The Sixers already said that they want Allen back in Philly. Even so, the trade isn't fair. Wally and Olowokandi aren't the same value as AI. With Olowokandi's dismal performance in the playoffs, I don't think the Sixers would want him. They also already have Sam, a rising star. This is just a bad trade for the Sixers. But if I was the Timberwolves, I would like this trade.</div>

    You hit it right on the spot. This trade would never happen. Maybe a deal that would send Sam Cassell and Latrell Sprewell to Philadelphia and Minnesota would get Allen Iverson and Eric Snow or Aaron Mckie in return. I believe this trade would benefit both teams. I'm not too clear on the salary cap issues, but by the looks of it, it seems as if would work out for both teams.

    <u>Minnesota TimberWolves</u>

    G- Eric Snow/Troy Hudson?
    G- Allen Iverson
    F- Wally Wally Szczerbiak/Trenton Hassell
    F- Kevin Garnett
    C- Michael Olowokandi

    <u>Philadelhpia 76ers</u>

    G- Sam Cassell
    G- Latrell Sprewell
    F- Glenn Robinson
    F- Kenny Thomas
    C- Samuel Dalembart
     
  5. Captain Quicks

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    I think that would be an equal trade either way, Wally Sczerbiak was an allstar before his injury and a proven player, Olowakandi is oozing with potential he was the first pick in the 2002 draft. Allen Iverson and Kevin Garnett on a team would be like, Shaq & Kobe..
     
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    Well why would you want to bring AI to a team thyat relies so much on ball movement & offensive effiency. A guy like Iverson totally disrupts the flow of a teams offense imo. And if you watched the Wolves this season thats when they struggle, when the flow of their offense is disrupted by to much one-on-one with other people standing around. The Wolves offense is very effiencent with their current roster, that why they were tops in the league in fg%.

    Plus who knows how AI would react to playing 2nd fiddle to KG. Any trade to bring AI to the Wolves would be pretty far fetched. And I dont think kevin Mchale would think it would be in the best interest of the wolves ultimate goal to win a championship. AI will sell tickets but I dont think the Wolves would win a chip. The current unit is fine, they are one step away from a championship.

    All the Wolves need to do if find away to bring in a productive big body. And solve their problem at the pg. No need for any dramatic trades, even Wally S(during the playoffs) showed that he will play an important part in the wolves championship future. If you noticed when Wally was in the game he caused major match problems for the opposing team. Teams would often put their best perimeter defensive player on Cassell or Sprewell leaving Wally with a weaker often smaller defender who he could score boat loads of points against.

    Perfect example the last few games of the Kings series, Doug Christie would guard Cassell often living Mike Bibby a small weaker defender on Wally. And Wally scored points in bunches against him. I think that it will be like that against every team the Wolves face when everybody is healthy. Wally S has a chance to be very effective playing along Cassell & Sprewell because of the attention those two are going to recieve. Yes Wally S is probably tradable but I wouldnt just give him up for a player or players that dont really fit into the Wolves system, even if it is for one of the most popular players in the league.
     
  7. jbbWally

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    I say keep the team the way it is now. They were so close to winning, why change anything?
     
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    Why? We already have a great Shoot First, Pass Second PG. Also as good at scoring as he is, he's kind of a ballhog and we'd have the problem the Blazers have. Too many superstars. Plus he's inconsistent and wouldn't really fit our team play, sure he's great at fast breaks but we share the love. I say no to this. I say go for a Center instead.
     
  9. twolvesfan10

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    No matter what people say, the Wolves will keep Wally because they have big plans for him-LOL. Still, they will need him depending upon who else stays.
     
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    If I wasn't def all my 16 years, I think Iv'e heard Ivy said about 1000000.00000 times, that he is and will stay a sixer 4life!
     
  11. dajahit21

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    I know McHale ain't stupid enough (for those of you who don't check this season out a little better) to bring AI in Minnesota, I just know TWolves won't do that cause they wanna go to playoffs next year...
     
  12. CUSA Fan

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    AI isn't what we need. We need to go for a good backup PG and a Center. Kandi didn't do much this year, Erving Johnson is getting old and he did do some good stuff for us, but he isn't a center we can rely on. We need a good center that we can rely on because Kandi has shown that we can't rely on him. We just need a center who can go out there and bang down in the paint. Rebouding isnt a big thing that we need, I mean we have KG who gets 13+ rebounds a game. Cassell is getting older and he did get injured this year so we are going to need to grab a good backup. Hudson we can't use as a backup, he might not even be with us next season.

    A question I want to know...If we keep the same roster, and Wally is healthy, who do we start at SF, Hassell or Wally? My opinion, Hassell. Hassell plays outstanding defense. He brings occasional scoring as well. Wally showed after his injury this season that he is a good energy spurt off the bench. Him and Hoiberg both gave us great energy off the bench, both can knock down the 3.

    Opinions on this?
     
  13. Avery

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I just know TWolves won't do that cause they wanna go to playoffs next year...</div>

    So your trying to say if Allen Iverson was on the T-Wolves roster, the T-Wolves wouldn't make the Playoff's? If anything the T-Wolves would probably make the NBA Finals. Even though Sam Cassell wasn't 100% for the series against the L.A Lakers, and even if he was I think the T-Wolves would still end up losing the series. If the T-Wolves had any chance of winning that series they would need someone else besides Kevin Garnett to be consistent and give it their all every night. Kevin Garnett could have evenly match-up against Kobe or Shaq (individually) in that series, but there was no way he could out play them both.

    Kevin Garnett needs another perennial All-Star by his side. Sam Cassell is good, and if Allen Iverson did indeed end up TimberWolves I wouldn't want Sam to go. Then you have Latrell Sprewell, he's very inconsistent and a very streaky shooter. Don't get me wrong he could play. But that's a player I wouldn't mind seeing taking a hike especially for a player like Allen Iverson. I believe Allen Iverson and Kevin Garnett would compliment each other perfectly. We've seen how far Allen Iverson got when he teamed up with a big man. Unlike Mutumbo being a defensive player only, Allen Iverson would have someone to pass the ball to and someone that can score as good as him and quite possibly even better. He would easily become a 20-10 or a 25-8 player.

    Before anyone tries to kill me. :P I'm not trying to say that the TimberWolves desperatly NEEDS Allen Iverson. But I think they would be better off with him. AI & KG = Mini Me of Kobe & Shaq
     
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    Hmmmm...def need a center! Again, we never read too much about what people are doing to work out in the offseason. For all we know, Wally could come back next year and kick major butt and show all the peeps that wanted to trade him that he deserves to stay in MN. You just never know...you have to make a decision about what you want to do and live with it.
     
  15. Midnight Green

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    Nope no wya that trade would work first off the philly market is despret for a champion and would apply way to much pressure on wally to lead the team to success trust me I live in PA I know and if AI couldnt do it in philly in 8 years he has been here you think that wallly could come in and take them to the finals naw plus Kg is our leader AI would demand the ball over KG not wanting to play under him there for leading to conflict and way to many egos clashing keep the team that almost got there together add a few small peaces you were almos there.

    Dont go into a total reconstruction of the team plus AI would be playing out west you know were there are 7 foot tall giants everyone saw the all star game right what AI was forced to do because he kept running into yao shaq and other 6 10 plus people if he cant go 82 games in the east no offense but its got not nearly as much power as the west does in terms of height and big man like shaq anyway if he cant go 82 games east he sure as hell cant do it out west dont get me wrong I love AI but he just cant do it out west
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Captain Quicks:</div><div class="quote_post">Wally Sczerbiak was an allstar before his injury and a proven player, Olowakandi is oozing with potential he was the first pick in the 2002 draft. </div>

    The talk about Olowokandi's potential is over, as he wa the first pick of the 98 draft, not 02.

    Perhaps more imporantly, Iverson sells tickets and jerseys. Wally does not. Olwokandi certainly does not. If they do this trade, they won't make the playoff, and lose a ton of revenues.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post">The talk about Olowokandi's potential is over, as he wa the first pick of the 98 draft, not 02.

    Perhaps more imporantly, Iverson sells tickets and jerseys. Wally does not. Olwokandi certainly does not. If they do this trade, they won't make the playoff, and lose a ton of revenues.</div>
    Also another reason not to do that desides of ticket sales and merchandise would be because for a couple of reasons for them and us first for them they already have a very good young center in Dalembert so Olowakandi would be of no use to them. Know for us we have no dominate center on the team when nesterovic had that really good year for us in 2002-03 we thought we could make him the future for our team at the center position, but he left and went to san antonio were he did horrible for a 7 footer. Then we thought we could have the kandi come in and be a solid player for us espcially after he said he would be the biggest bargen this off season in an interview but that didnt work out and ervin is a good player but cant be a offensive threat at the age of 37 then we have madsen who has a lot of energy but does not have the height to guard shaquille oneal or the quickness to guard yao ming nor the height. So we need to keep kandi at least until we get a decent center from the draft or free agency.
     

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