Time to give up?

Discussion in 'Philadelphia 76ers' started by Martin, Feb 28, 2004.

  1. Martin

    Martin Back from retirement

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    Sixers are 23-35(currently 11th in the east,24th in the league) and seems like another loss is coming tonight.I think it's time to give up,the schedule is though to end a season and imo rushing AI and other injured players back isn't good on long term as even if we make it to the playoffs,we won't make it past the first round so why to take the risk and get injury plagued players next year?Would you like a season like this next year?I think not,I say let injured players get their rest and don't rush them back.And why not try to get
    higher draft pick?Okafor is out of question but Dwight Howard,Jameer Nelson,Pavel Podkolzine,Ivan Chiriaev aren't so lets give up and make some changes in the off-season to get a run to the finals next year.


    Just my 2cents.
     
  2. Erin

    Erin JBB JustBBall Member

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    I gave up awhile ago. Bring on Jameer!
     
  3. Avery

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    You guys arent TRUE fans. Its not like the Sixers are 6 games out of the final spot. They're only 2 or 1 game out of the final spot. Plus, the Raptors have no Rose nor Carter, so expect them to fall of, Knicks lost 5 straight, Miama had a little run, but it ended today against the Nets, and we know Boston cant catch up.. So they're still a chance. Sure we're going to drop the next 2 games against SAC and IND. But after that our upcoming games arent that bad.

    6 Sat Chicago
    8 Mon Milwaukee
    9 Tue @ Chicago
    12 Fri New York
    14 Sun @ Detroit
    16 Tue @ Memphis
    17 Wed @ New Orleans
    20 Sat @ Miami
    22 Mon Dallas
    24 Wed Phoenix
    26 Fri Cleveland
    28 Sun @ Boston
    30 Tue Golden State

    Its not the bets. But we could have a little run. I believe we can go 8-4 during this strech. So if I were you guys not give up yet.
     
  4. Martin

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    True fans? We're just saying that it would be better not to rush injured players back and of course this would mean losing but it will be better in the long term as some players may become "Grant Hill's" and we would get a chance at the higher draft pick.

    Schedule is though,if you look at teams we're facing,the record we may get at the end of the season is 32-50.
     
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    I think that if they start to tank games.That means they have all lost faith in themselves.We should never give up.The Sixers are in the east and even if they are losing they still have a chance of going to the playoffs.
     
  6. Erin

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting I3:</div><div class="quote_post">You guys arent TRUE fans. Its not like the Sixers are 6 games out of the final spot. They're only 2 or 1 game out of the final spot. Plus, the Raptors have no Rose nor Carter, so expect them to fall of, Knicks lost 5 straight, Miama had a little run, but it ended today against the Nets, and we know Boston cant catch up.. So they're still a chance. Sure we're going to drop the next 2 games against SAC and IND. But after that our upcoming games arent that bad.

    6 Sat Chicago
    8 Mon Milwaukee
    9 Tue @ Chicago
    12 Fri New York
    14 Sun @ Detroit
    16 Tue @ Memphis
    17 Wed @ New Orleans
    20 Sat @ Miami
    22 Mon Dallas
    24 Wed Phoenix
    26 Fri Cleveland
    28 Sun @ Boston
    30 Tue Golden State

    Its not the bets. But we could have a little run. I believe we can go 8-4 during this strech. So if I were you guys not give up yet.</div>

    I don't like being told that I'm not a true fan. Because I am. And I'm giving up because basically no one on the team seems to care. Iverson has been sitting out all the time, same with Glenn and now Marc Jackson will be out 2-4 more weeks and everyone else is basically playing like crap. So I'm stating a point which is also my opinion. So if you don't wanna start a fight, don't come around saying who is a true fan and who isn't. K, thanx.
     
  7. CANT STOP ME

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    the sixers need to deal iverson they are not going to progrress any further as a contender. the best that iverson can do is take them to the finals and get swept. the sixers will not win with AI. trade for someone with a positive attitude and build around the great shooter kyle korver.
     
  8. B.e.

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    ok^^ how are you goin to build your team around a shooter you build your team around the leader, I agree with all this but I also disagree.I agree because the sixers probaly won't get anything acomplished in the playoffs if they go,and they need to be lookin toward next season.I disagree because I know Ai would want us to belive in the sixers so Im not givin up on them until they are virtually out of the play-offs.And if that happens we can look towards next year and know we can get some younger talent to the team.
     
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    i shouldnt have used korver as an example that was my bad. but i do think the sixers need to deal AI for someone who can help them win. iverson isnt getting the job done right now. and saying AI wants you to believe in the sixers is lame whats their to believe in? That youll finish the year a game or two better than the woefull magic?
     
  10. B.e.

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    Im sayin that AI wouldnt want Sixers fans to give up on the Sixers and its true.Iverson is gettin the job done! Do you watch Sixers games,his team mates aren't gettin the job done.Tell me one thing that AI does that is considered aint gettin the job done?
     
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    but if iverson is such a great player he would be making his teammates better
     
  12. Purple N Gold

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    You and them Magic fans are pathetic. Giving up on your team? Wanting to tank games? That's horrible....

    What's the point of being a fan, if at times you want to do bad? You guys call yourselves fans? The players, the coaches, the REAL fans, and the organization still has hope. Hell, I don't even like the Sixers and I think they'll be in the playoff hunt towards the end of the season. I know you guys want your draft pick, but what the hell? Your willing to take the risk of one good player who may not even make an impact in his first couple years, if ever, rather than your team making a run at the playoffs? Please, that is nonsense. I agree with I3. Anything is possible when you have Allen Iverson on your team, this guy has the heart to carry this Sixer team down the stretch when needed. I don't care what you do, rather if it's spending money to go see them play, watching them on TV every night, whatever. If you don't have hope for your team especially when making the playoffs is possible, then you cannot call yourself a loyal fan.

    You guys got it bad, but at least your not like them Orlando fans who actually root for their team to lose.
     
  13. Erin

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    Why would we waste our season battling for a final playoff spot just to get booted out in the first round anyways? We're not at all better or anywhere NEAR Detroit or Indiana team wise so what makes us think we can beat them now? I'd rather have a decent draft pick than attempt to make the playoffs just to be left with an early round exit.
     
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    Give up????? Give up????????? Hmm. I see where you're coming from, but I don't think the guys who lace em up every night want to go out and play for a loss. It would be nice to be able to get a Jamir Nelson or other player from the lottery, but come on guys, these are professional athletes we're talking about. The lottery isn't something you strive for so I don't agree with the "let's lose and get in the lottery" idea.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIFan:</div><div class="quote_post">Give up????? Give up????????? Hmm. I see where you're coming from, but I don't think the guys who lace em up every night want to go out and play for a loss. It would be nice to be able to get a Jamir Nelson or other player from the lottery, but come on guys, these are professional athletes we're talking about. The lottery isn't something you strive for so I don't agree with the "let's lose and get in the lottery" idea.</div>

    I'm just saying it's better than going to the playoffs, getting boot out in the first round and settling for a pick farther along in the draft.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting kvh4fan:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm just saying it's better than going to the playoffs, getting boot out in the first round and settling for a pick farther along in the draft.</div>Again, I understand your point, I just don't agree that they should set a goal of being a part of the draft lottery.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting kvh4fan:</div><div class="quote_post">Why would we waste our season battling for a final playoff spot just to get booted out in the first round anyways? We're not at all better or anywhere NEAR Detroit or Indiana team wise so what makes us think we can beat them now? I'd rather have a decent draft pick than attempt to make the playoffs just to be left with an early round exit.</div>

    Making the playoffs is a lot more than just getting there, and being booted. Ask any fan of any team(except the Magic, lol) and they'll tell you they rather see their team in the playoffs regardless of if they'll be knocked out the 1st round or not. To see your team succeed, and be in the hunt of playoff excitement, is the great thing of basketball. What if the Sixers have a whole different look next year, and are only 2 games or so out of a playoff spot, but you know they don't have what it takes to beat the Pacers, Nets, or the Pistons. Your just going to give up again and say tank the season? That could go on for 5 years, because I don't see anywhere in the near future the Sixers being a better team then those 3 I just listed. And if they do make a run into the playoffs, they would have obviously been playing pretty good ball to get there, they would have a chance at beating someone. You never know, this is the NBA.

    Yeah, I'm a Sixer fan, I go to a lot of their games and watch all of them on TV as well. But yes, I like them to lose so we can pick up a good rookie, then after when we are only 2 games out the following year, I root for them to lose again, so we can pick up another good rookie. Then we can do it over and over until we finally become a better team than one of the top dawgs in the East. That story may never end.....Have some faith in your team.
     
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    All the east teams need to trade next year. and put all the super stars on one team, mcgrady, a.i, j.o, big ben, and vince on one team. then the east will surely conquer any coming team the west has to offer.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Why would we waste our season battling for a final playoff spot just to get booted out in the first round anyways? We're not at all better or anywhere NEAR Detroit or Indiana team wise so what makes us think we can beat them now? I'd rather have a decent draft pick than attempt to make the playoffs just to be left with an early round exit.</div>

    Is that so Nostrodomas? Alright then. So give me the box score..Tell me the final score....Yeah I know...You can't. Like Purple N Gold said its the NBA, anything can happen. Hey, JO might get injured in the next game, Rasheed Wallace might have some legal issue. Then again the Sixers could just turn things around completly, like the Nets did. So till you can give me the recap's of the game, box score etc...Then I'll believe you. But for now, we just keep hoping that they can pull themselves together. Like I said before, once you in the Playoff' season dosent matter, all it does is determine who gets to play at home first. Simple as that.
     
  20. Erin

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    Well, it's only my opinion. I never said you had to agree.
     

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