Time to start over - Blow this thing up

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Hank The Dwarf, Dec 12, 2011.

  1. Hank The Dwarf

    Hank The Dwarf Member

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    Time to start over, I know PA won't want to hear it but its time to nuke this roster and start from scratch. You simply CANNOT win in Portland Oregon, through Free Agency and trades. We need to gut this team for cap space and future draft picks. Get a few lottery picks and hope to hit a home run with a new franchise player.

    Aldridge, Batum, Wallace, Matthews...every last one of them. Those guys are not good enough to get us where we want to go, and being stuck in mediocrity is the worst place you can be.

    I hope Larry Miller has the stones to get this done.

    -hank
     
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    please stay at o-live.
     
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    rolling eyes.... again
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Maybe we can follow the Cavs plan. Suck for 19 years until you strike gold in draft then have superstar leave Portland for bigger market. Suck again and repeat.
     
  6. Hank The Dwarf

    Hank The Dwarf Member

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    Please blow me.
     
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    Draco Well-Known Member

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    I find OP funny, if we can't improve by free agency or trades what the hell good is any cap space going to be?
     
  8. Hank The Dwarf

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    Flexibility, get under the cap, aquire draft picks..hope to get a superstar and then use the cap space to complete the team with veteran FA's.

    It's either blow it up or spend the next 5 years hoping to be a 6-8 seed and getting bounced in the first round.
     
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    And how would that be better than maintaining a core of Aldridge, Wallace, Batum, and Felton while positioning the team to have enough cap space to sign a max FA next summer, bringing Joel Freeland over, and having a mid-range draft pick in a really deep draft?
     
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    BoBoBREWSKI BURP!

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    Thanks for the laugh.
     
  11. Hank The Dwarf

    Hank The Dwarf Member

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    Because premier NBA FA's will not sign in Portland..the core that you mentioned of Aldridge, Wallace, Batum and Felton are not good enough to get us a legit shot at winning a title..and yet they are good enough to consistently win 40ish games a year and keep us drafting in the late teens to mid 20's every year.

    It's time to start over, the Roy era has ended and we need to nuke it.
     
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    ha ha ha ha ha ha!

    Nice plan.

    Not.
     
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    Sorry, but I don't buy it. Sure the premier stars will do what they've always done and position themselves to play in big markets, but there's a whole lot of very good players who will be looking for a big contract and not enough teams are going to have the cap space to give it to them. Besides, how is the recipe of blowing it up in order to take a chance on the draft a recipe for success? If the guy you draft is a premier player, he may eventually try to play the "trade me or I won't re-sign" game. I'd rather start with some really good pieces than start with nothing.
     
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    Sadly he's more right than wrong. You guys just refuse to believe it
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    What's really sad is that you can never seem to get past your usual pessimist shtick.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    No, it's either blow it up or else keep together a core that is good but not great and hope to add pieces through smart signings, drafts and trades to improve their lot. Which is the way most teams go from good to great.

    And if your problem with the second scenario is lack of trust in the front office to make smart decisions then I fail to see why you'd trust them with cap space and lottery picks.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    But I do agree that they need to do something big.

    LaMarcus Aldridge and 14 complementary players wont get you too far.
     
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    How many teams built a champion through purposefully tearing their team down ("tanking") and then using the cap space and lottery picks? Provide a few examples that show that this blueprint is quite a successful one.
     
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    We've been under the cap before with plenty of $$ to offer to big time FA's... why don't we have Lebron or CP3 playing here?

    Shoot, we could not even convince Hedo to come to Portland. It simply won't happen. The only way for this team to re-build is through the draft. I don't want to see another decade of trying to "re-load" by bringing in aging overpaid ex-stars like Wallace in desperate trades.

    It won't work.
     

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