OT Too many guards..

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  1. BigGameDamian

    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    Get them back? They are fan favorites!

     
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    They are basically on low-cost contracts & Portland is required to have a minimum number of players.

    The question is are Didi & Keon better than any of the other non-contract guys?
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    You’re still here MM, so the doctors couldn't be too bad! Glad you’re still with us amigo.
     
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    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    Anyone can help off the ball. That doesn’t mean shit
     
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    That's an odd statement.
    Off - ball defense doesn't mean shit?
     
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    MickZagger Well-Known Member

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    He can even play help defense on Jokic? Well any player can leave their man and swipe at Jokic while he’s guarded by his own man. Kinda odd to say he can even leave his man open to help. Well obviously. Any player can do that. Help defense is a schematic thing.
     
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    I agree. We need 6 guards, 6 forwards, and 3 centers.
    We are pretty close to having that. If Hart is an SF then we have 1 too many forwards. If he is a guard then we have 1 too many guards. But we do need one more quality big (C/PF)

    Guards:
    Dame, Ant, GP2, Sharpe, Didi, Keon (Hart)

    Forwards:
    Little, Winslow, Grant, Watford, Brown, Walker (Hart)

    Centers
    Nurk, Eubank, ?
     
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    Winslow played some small ball 5 for us last season as did Watford...I think we'll get another combo big though if not this summer by the trade deadline..there are lots without jobs...somebody just picked up the Greek center we signed a few years ago for bench insurance...Celtics just picked up Wenyen Gabriel...there are lots of those 3rd string guys out there..Ed Davis, Lamarcus, Rolo, Skal...and probably more yet when KD gets traded will come available....hell Kanter and Meyers don't have jobs either
     
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    Cut Didi and sign Roby - then we’re done for now
     
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    I don’t get why you keep saying this. Sure, a trade that sends out a bunch of guards for one more expensive forward or center is a problem because of the hard cap and minimum roster requirements, but trading a guard for a forward or center who makes similar money isn’t a problem.
     
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    GP2 blocked Jokic as his main defender above. How many 6'3" guys are doing that? He also came off-ball and blocked him. His stats on defense are awesome.
     
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    Because….. it’s unlikely because of the hard cap
     
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    I don’t think those words mean what you think they mean. ;)
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    That’s like…. Your opinion….. man.
     
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    True. Mine and the trusty old Trade Machine's:

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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Well sure, we can still make bad trades.
     
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    Oh, now you’re just being fussy. The point is that there are likely a lot of one-for-one deals that could be made under the hard cap for guys with similar salaries.
     
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    I never said it was impossible. I said it was unlikely, because it needs to be:

    A) A player that helps us.

    B) Perfect matching salary or less salary.

    I really hope we don't trade Hart for a downgrade in talent. We need someone of equal or better value, but at the same price, and Hart is arguably underpaid.
     
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    Word is we were almost as high on Daniels as we were Sharpe. Would the roster have looked better if we got a 6'8 point forward instead?

    Dame / GP2
    Ant / Hart
    Nas / Daniels
    Grant / Winslow
    Nurk / Watford / Eubanks

    Fit is definitely less clunky.

    But I'm good with the high upside swing on Sharpe regardless of positional redundancy now.
     
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    We arguably have 2 (legitimate) rotational forwards in Grant and Nas, kinda depends on how you feel about Nas/Winslow. Given Nas injury history and I think Winslow is meh, you could argue we have 1 legitimate rotational forward in Grant.
    Don't come at me with Josh Hart. He's a SG, who is going to be forced to play out of position.

    We have about 4(ish) rotational guards.
    Dame
    Ant
    Hart
    GP2

    Sharpe is a question mark.

    We have 1 decent center.

    So the spot with the most rotational depth also has:
    Didi
    Keon
    Bledsoe (as of now)

    For a total of 8 (over half the roster) spots, while we are sorely lacking in wing (starting and bench) and backup PF/C talent.

    Removing GP2 for Otto Porter Jr, TJ Warren or even Jalen Smith would've been a much more sensible play.
     
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