12-Troy Vincent to Buffallo-Great guy, and still a betther than average CB can help replace Winfield and help NAte CLements grow 11-Wistrom to Seatle-a good PR, was overpaid but will help the D and the team get pressure on Bulger who does bad under pressure. Makes the hawks better than the rams IMO 10-Sapp and Washington to Oakland-Wasnt this the worse run D last year that gets arguably 2 top 15 DTs in the league on the same line? 9-Brock Marion to Detroit-Helps that Defense, and makes it better and more experiecned, a key addition that can help the lions be this years suprise 8-Antoine Winifield to the Vikes-a bad Defense just got alot better with the acquisition of Antoine. he will try and help the team not choke after week 7 and blow a 6-0 record. 7-Damien Woody to Detroit-PRobably the youngest best G/C in the league will help protect Joey Harrington 6-Freak to Eagles-a team that led the league in sacks 2 yearss ago, then the D-line registers less that 15 sacks, Kearse can hit that number easily, IF HES HEalthy 5-Lynch and Bailey to Broncos- Lynch was a underated move IMO, he isnt hte player he was but with Champ Baily suffocating 1 half of the Field, Lynch can help the other side, plus when he hits a WR in that weather they wont go over the middle again and it will def. play with the WR;s minds/ 4TSprings to Wash-they created this need by trading Champ, but it was a good move. 4T-Portis to DC-will help that offense and wil no doubt make it a top 5 NFL offense wil coles, gardner and brunell to help him. Thats if Portis plays like he played in Shanhanhans RB friendly offense. 2-Boston to Miami-will create space for McMichael and Chambers, will go over the middle and is a number 1 guy. if he turns out and doesnt create any problems. 1-TO to PHILLY BABY-im a homer but look what Donnie MAc did without TO? and u will see what he does with TO, he creates space for Freddie who will be BETTER and LJ and West. thoughts?
Hey Dawk? How about my Chiefs firing Greg Robinson and bringing back Gunther Cunningham? That seems like a top 15 to me!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kcgsc)</div><div class='quotemain'>Hey Dawk? How about my Chiefs firing Greg Robinson and bringing back Gunther Cunningham? That seems like a top 15 to me!</div> Huge. Greg Robinson is horrible. Gunther as D-coordinator is a monstrous move by the Chiefs to improve their defense. Gunther is light years better than Robinson and I predict that the Chiefs will be in the top 10 on defense this season. Gunther Cunningham was D-coordinator of the Chiefsyears ago and, I still have nightmares of Derrick Thomas and his blazing speed around the edge. D. Thomas to me was one of the greatest outside linebackers of all time akin to Lawrence Taylor (ooh I said it!). Shawn Barber has shown signs of that , but he's still no Derrick Thomas. Blah blah blah....I think I'll go pass out now.........
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kcgsc)</div><div class='quotemain'>Hey Dawk? How about my Chiefs firing Greg Robinson and bringing back Gunther Cunningham? That seems like a top 15 to me!</div> i didnt add coaches, if i added coaches than you would see Denny Green up there with Gibbs and Coughlin.
1,4(springs only),7,9,10,12 were not good moves IMO so they should be removed from list, of the remaining is woud say the order should be 4,5,6,8,2,11.
what moves were better than bF1? warner to the giants? NOOOO, dillon to the pats is the only move thats worht a mention, but evne thats not a top 12 move
Troy Vincent to Buffalo is a decent move but have been waiting for Clements to step up for sometime. Losing Winfield will hurt. TV is good but Corner is young man's position and AW is better than TV. Minnesota got the better deal. Their D improved dramatically w/ this one acquisition. Further, Winfield had a knack of stepping up against Miami, so, I won't miss him. Wistrom to Seatle is excellent simply because its leaves St Louis (a divisional rival) w/ only journeyman DE's for part of the year. Its only a question how long and not if Little will get suspended. Sapp & Washington to Oakland was but why pay starters $ to guys in their mid 30s who will play part time depending on the scheme. Several years ago, this would have been okay but Brock Marion has lost a step or two. Had Brock rotated over; maybe New England wouldn't have beaten the Dolphins in S Florida. Sadly, it does improve the Lions secondary. Damien Woody will improve the Detroit line for how long as 37 once said (or something similar) when I hoped he'd end up in Miami, "DW is a loafer." If Javon can get over his injuries this could be quite the steal but a toe injury can be quite tricky. It could all boil down to surface type at Lincoln Financial. Lynch could be a steal simply as they have someone to call the D and provide veteran leadership now that Gold & Mobley have moved on. All teams IMO should have 1 really good CB. This could be the difference for Denver but then again protecting Plummer is still a major concern. Further, the running game down a peg which will factor into Jake's health. Springs to the Skins - No big deal as is Vincent to Buffalo. Its a downgrade for both not by much but a downgrade nonetheless. Portis, in Gibbs' Offensive, will be interesting as he is more of a Speed/cutback WR and not the Hammer that Joe has used in the past. Where have you gone John Riggins? Boston to Miami will make it near impossible for McMichael or Chambers to get doubled. Further, Lining 8 in the box to contain Ricky will be much more difficult. Belichick, though, will find a way. It all boils down to who plays QB. Further, given who Miami's coach is I doublt the offense will open up much regardless of whats being said now. TO to Philly is an improvement but there is still no proven 2nd WR. I have a feeling that teams will scheme to shut TO. Then, its back to containing #5 and let the running game beat you. However, the loss of Duce will impact the runing game. The key question is; Has Buckhalter recovered from his injury? Westbrook is nothing more than a change of pace. Dillion to New England is on paper the best move so far. Reggie Howard formerly of Carolina signing w/ Miami will have an impact as will drafting Poole. Was this done to shut down New England's spread formations? Absolutely.
Wow, BA you pretty much are on the same page as i am on those moves. That is why i denounced some of the moves as not good. TO is a me player and will be bad for philly which was so team oriented. TV to buffalo, springs to washington both of those players are worse than who played them the season before. Sapp and washington dont really fit together, but maybe they will find a way. Regardless it is too much money for OLD players. Woody is an average lineman without heart, and marions best years are two years ago.
Yo dawk........... your really starting to piss me off bout all this eagles shizzle!!!!!! i swear man!!!!!!!!!!! I just think that this year u'll be suprised
GF1, i still think the giants will be the 2nd best team. they very quietly added so many vets just like they did b4 their SB run. they still have a great offense, warner, barber, toomer, hilliard, shokey, i think they are the 2nd team in the division. but how can u not like what the eagles did?
Springs is worse than Champ Bailey, but he's still one heck of a corner. With that one I would include the addition of Portis into the big picture and call it a pretty good move.
people i said springs and portis was a tie, its like getting the a top 10 CB and the a top 5 RB for the best CB. its a win win situation,and maybe even a steal
I myself like the eagles,redskins and bronco's moves. However the patroits wising up and not resigning antwane smith and getting corey dillon is a great move. They now have a true rb who will get them over 1000 yards easy. Patroits got better imo.
Still i think that Pinkston is a scrub and that eagles fans are making a way too big of a deal about LJ
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BearsFan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, BA you pretty much are on the same page as i am on those moves. That is why i denounced some of the moves as not good. TO is a me player and will be bad for philly which was so team oriented. TV to buffalo, springs to washington both of those players are worse than who played them the season before. Sapp and washington dont really fit together, but maybe they will find a way. Regardless it is too much money for OLD players. Woody is an average lineman without heart, and marions best years are two years ago.</div> You know BF1 what they say about great minds or maybe Beef is spoon feeding us the answers. Regardless, we anti-Wannstedt-ites have to stick together.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Philly_Freak93)</div><div class='quotemain'>people i said springs and portis was a tie, its like getting the a top 10 CB and the a top 5 RB for the best CB. its a win win situation,and maybe even a steal</div> With the loss of Mobley & Gold, the additions of Bailey and Lynch may just hold the Denver D together.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kcgsc)</div><div class='quotemain'>Springs is worse than Champ Bailey, but he's still one heck of a corner. With that one I would include the addition of Portis into the big picture and call it a pretty good move.</div> I dont know about that kc shawn springs did lose his job last year. The hawks put him in the nickol package. I think springs has clearly lost a step much like troy vincent. The injurys imo have caught up with him and springs is clearly a avg corner now at best.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giantsfan12004)</div><div class='quotemain'>Still i think that Pinkston is a scrub and that eagles fans are making a way too big of a deal about LJ</div> pinkston is a scrub, i thought hed have a great year and i was wrong. BUt LJ is a player and u will see. he kiled himself on MNF. HE was our backup TE and still made a bigplay eer time he caught the ball, he had several games were he averaged over 15 YPC, hes powerful and fast and can stretch the field like noother
