Top 5 Breakout Wing 2010-11

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  1. BlazerFanForLife

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    Poor man's Ariza? Are you kidding me? Maybe I'm too much of a homer, but I would say Nic's defense is with Ariza and his ball handling, play making are better.
     
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    I'd say Batum was already at the level of or beyond Ariza at age 21. His upside is well beyond Ariza. I actually like Ariza as a player quite a bit, but I think he'll prove to be a poor man's Nic Batum.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I guess there are worse players to be compared to than Ariza and Jamario Moon.
     
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    Hahaha


    That should slap some sense into people.


    At least those that think Batum is the second coming of Scottie Pippen
     
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    Um, no he wasn't. He was injured for most of the year, and when he wasn't injured, he was clearly better than any of those other players (he and Outlaw were never even healthy at the same point last year). Clearly this guy didn't watch Batum play last year.
     
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    What a dimemag opinion piece?

    What is your "scout friends" take on Batum?

    P.S. McMillan sucks!
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    ORtg:
    Batum 127
    Ariza 99

    OWS:
    Batum 2.4
    Ariza 0.1

    WS/48
    Batum 0.181
    Ariza 0.058

    Ariza played almost 3x (2.86x to be exact) the minutes Batum did, but Batum had 24x as many OWS (Offensive Win Shares). So, by that metric, Batum is already 68.7x the offensive player Ariza is.

    Trevor Ariza would need a breakout season to be the next Nicolas Batum.

    BNM
     
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    Actually, the stats say otherwise. Per 36, Ariza had twice as many assists as Batum.
     
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    ...and turnovers. I don't think either has too much to crow about there.

    STOMP
     
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    This article could have been easily entitled "Underachieving Wings".
     
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    McMillan does suck, and my scout friend loves Batum. Although he thinks he is horribly misused.
     
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    You should show this article to your "scout friend" to slap some sense into him.
     
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    Your "scout friend" should have a job on the sidelines somewhere.

    I think it was you who wanted Terry Porter as the coach a couple years back? The same Terry Porter who was ran out of Phoenix and can't even stick on as an assistant in the league these days.
     
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    Porter should be coach.

    Or maybe Nate should have been fired after his second year? Porter has as good of a coaching record as Nate does, without the benefit of Kevin Pritchard landing a top 10 NBA player. While in Phoenix, Porter led them to a winning record beore being let go because the team didn't want to play defense.

    Let's try not to derail the thread too much. Batum is the single most over rated player in the history of the Blazers. He is a nice young role player, and that's it.....at this point
     
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    How is a player over rated when his hype is based upon his potential. Until he does (or doesn't) fulfill that potential then he isn't over rated he's just hyped. I think for his age, frame and abilities the hype is just.
     
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    how does he think he should be used??
     
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    He says the Blazers would be a more dangerous team if Nic came off more picks and shot to the basket. Also thinks he "could" be a guy you could set up at the top of the key with the ball because of his ability to see over the defense and his abilty to handle the ball.

    Right now Nic sets up in a corner and then either shoots or drives himself.
     

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