This topic is about what you think who will be the top five players next season.1. Kobe Bryant- the mvp of the league2. Steve Nash- mvp of 20053. Dwanye Wade- one of the most flashiest and clucth players4. Tracy Mcgrady- my boi will be back next season5. Yao Ming- have you seen this guy as of late
Nash is a great player and makes his teamates better, but look at the new unselfess Kobe. He is clearly the league's best player.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (desi tmac91 @ May 6 2006, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nash is a great player and makes his teamates better, but look at the new unselfess Kobe. He is clearly the league's best player.</div>He wasn't saying 2nd is too low, he was saying it's too high, which it is. And where the hell is Lebron?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lakaboy42 @ May 6 2006, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He wasn't saying 2nd is too low, he was saying it's too high, which it is. And where the hell is Lebron?</div>I made him 2nd because i didn't want 50 Suns fans over me. Lebron is good but not great just yet, and definitely not going to be better than MJ.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (desi tmac91 @ May 6 2006, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I made him 2nd because i didn't want 50 Suns fans over me. Lebron is good but not great just yet, and definitely not going to be better than MJ.</div>Ummm, so. He's still EASILY top 3. And to say he's not top 5 is ridiculous. BTW, not many people (even Suns fans) would put Steve Nash at #2 over guys like Kobe and/or Lebron.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lakaboy42 @ May 6 2006, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ummm, so. He's still EASILY top 3. And to say he's not top 5 is ridiculous. BTW, not many people (even Suns fans) would put Steve Nash at #2 over guys like Kobe and/or Lebron.</div>I come from alot of forums and i love to be the odd ball. Lebron has many things to improve on and i'll see next season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (desi tmac91 @ May 6 2006, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I come from alot of forums and i love to be the odd ball.</div>So, basically, you made the list just so you could be different?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (desi tmac91 @ May 6 2006, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I made him 2nd because i didn't want 50 Suns fans over me. Lebron is good but not great just yet, and definitely not going to be better than MJ.</div>Right... but Yao can be on the list? Pffft. No order:1. Kobe Bryant2. LeBron James3. Steve Nash4. Dwyane Wade5. Tim Duncan (he's still great, and he will be healthy hopefully)
Your crazy desi.1. Kobe Bryant2. Lebron James3. Dwyane Wade4. Kevin Garnett5. Dirk NowitzkiI guess I'm going with stat-wise. It's hard to call the top 5, even for this year.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>5. Tim Duncan (he's still great, and he will be healthy hopefully)</div>No, he's good still, but there is no chance that that he will be top five next year. His team will be top five, but not him.
1) LeBron James2) Kobe Bryant3) Dwyane Wade4) Kevin Garnett (if he gets on a new team)5) Tracy Mcgrady
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nitro1118 @ May 6 2006, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>4) Kevin Garnett (if he gets on a new team)</div>I don't get how being on a new team will change the player that he is. So if he is on the Timberwolves he isn't that good but if he is on the Chicago Bulls or New Jersey Nets he is? Give me a break. So what if he isn't in a big market.
1 - LeBron James - We are talking about a player, who in his first playoff series averaged 35 PPG, 7 APG, and 7RPG. Sure Kobe Bryant is a better pure scorer than LeBron. Sure Steve Nash is a better passer than LeBron. Sure there are big men in the NBA who out-rebound LeBron. However, there is no player in today?s NBA that combines all facets of basketball like LeBron James. He has done, and can do anything. He is an incredible passer. He is an incredible scorer. He is an incredible rebounder. Heck, he's an incredible clutch player now. He already has the talent of some of the All Time greats, he just needs to play a little defense, and win a few more games. If that happens, we could really be "witnesses"2 - Kobe Bryant - If Kobe can find a way to harness his passing ability like he has shown glimpses of this series, he'll inch closer and closer to that title of a 'Top 10 Player Ever.' What he has done for the Lakers this year is incredible, regardless of how they play tonight. He is the best pure scorer in basketball right now, and has developed an arsenal of offensive moves that in my eyes, is the closest ever to matching Michael Jordan. However: Will he revert back to his selfish ways? Will the Lakers again be a mediocre team? No one's quite sure about how Kobe will play next year; we just know that however he does it; he'll do it better than anyone not named LeBron3 - Dwayne Wade - Dwayne Wade is another guy, who while not the best scorer, is a great scorer. While he isn't the best passer, he's a great passer. While not the best rebounder, is a great rebounder. However, there are two things that limit Dwayne Wade to only 3rd on my list: He still is incapable of hitting a jump shot outside of 20 feet in any circumstance, and he has proven that he is not Miami's Most Valuable Player, even though he is their best talent. With Shaq in foul trouble for two games against Chicago in these playoffs, the Heat went 0-2. With Shaq playing and contributing, the Heat were 4 - 0. Without Shaq this season, the Heat were 10-11. Tell you anything? 4 - Kevin Garnett - While Tim Duncan has clearly started in his decline, this year Kevin Garnett put up his usual 22 and 13. It's very clear he is not going to carry a team; however, it is equally as clear that he has the most skill for a big man in the NBA. He has three-point range when needed, can score in any way in the post, rebounds the ball 13 times a night, and can pass like Vlade Divac. Imagine if he had some teammates? Imagine if he was put in a position to shine, instead of a position to fail like the Timberwolves. Put him in LA, put him in a situation to succeed, and we are looking at the same MVP winner who was heading towards the Hall of Fame5 - Yao Ming - Yes, you did read that clearly. During the second half of the season, Yao averaged 22 and 12, 2 BPG, on 52% shooting and only 16 FGA per night. We all know how hard it is to find a big man today, and Yao Ming has established himself as the best center in the NBA. He is efficient, is the best 12 foot jump shot-shooter in the NBA, and was actually showing glimpses of playing hard-nosed basketball. Now imagine if he had TMac kicking the ball out to him, Rafer Alston throwing him some alley-oop passes for a consistent amount of time. He'd be even scarier, on an even better team
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr Wolf @ May 6 2006, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't get how being on a new team will change the player that he is. So if he is on the Timberwolves he isn't that good but if he is on the Chicago Bulls or New Jersey Nets he is? Give me a break. So what if he isn't in a big market.</div>It isn't about the market. It's the fact that if he gets on a good, new team he will be rejuvinated, similar to VC when he was traded. He needs a change of scenery. His number went down pretty signficantly this year, and I think he is starting to realize that Minnesota, in 10 years, has done nothing for him to win a championship.
I think Minnesota did a solid job that one year of getting Cassell and Sprewell, but did nothing thereafter. It would be in Garnett's best interest to go to another team. If I'm him, I'm pushing as hard as I can for a trade
1- Kobe2- Lebron3- Tmac4- Wade5- DirkIf tmac is back to his finest, i might put him number 2 maybe even 1.
After this years playoffs, I just don't see how Kobe will be better than LeBron, or TMac, or anyone. LeBron was already a better passer and rebounder than Kobe before these playoffs started. You yourself admitted that you think Kobe will revert back to scoring. Therefore, come next year, LeBron will be a better passer, and rebounder than Kobe next year, and possibly, better scorer. Add the fact that he will most likely also lead his team to a better record, and I don't see how he'll be worse.Actually, LeBron was already a superioir scorer and rebounder to Kobe. Plus he only averaged 3 points less than Kobe, which isn't that much. Someone explain how Kobe will be better than LeBron?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KMart @ May 6 2006, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>After this years playoffs, I just don't see how Kobe will be better than LeBron, or TMac, or anyone. LeBron was already a better passer and rebounder than Kobe before these playoffs started. You yourself admitted that you think Kobe will revert back to scoring. Therefore, come next year, LeBron will be a better passer, and rebounder than Kobe next year, and possibly, better scorer. Add the fact that he will most likely also lead his team to a better record, and I don't see how he'll be worse.Actually, LeBron was already a superioir scorer and rebounder to Kobe. Plus he only averaged 3 points less than Kobe, which isn't that much. Someone explain how Kobe will be better than LeBron?</div>Better scorer, better with the game on the line, better defender, better leader.
