I'll start from the 1998 season... 1) Michael Jordan 2) Shaq 3) Payton 4) Malone 5) Duncan 1999 1) Shaq 2) Malone 3) Duncan 4) Garnett 5) Iverson 2000 1) Shaq 2) Duncan 3) Iverson 4) Garnett 5) Kobe 2001 1) Shaq 2) Duncan 3) Garnett 4) Iverson 5) Vince 2002 1) Shaq 2) Kidd 3) Duncan 4) Garnett 5) Kobe 2003 1) Duncan 2) Garnett 3) Shaq 4) Kobe 5) Kidd 2004 1) Duncan 2) Garnett 3) Shaq 4) Kobe 5) Tracy 2005...
[quote name='Chungster']I'll start from the 1998 season... 1999 1) Shaq 2) Malone 3) Duncan 4) Garnett 5) Iverson wheres my man Zo here? i mean zo was much betta then KG in 99
1998 1- Michael Jordan 2- Karl Malone 3- Shaquille O'Neal 4- Tim Duncan 5- Gary Payton 1999 1- Karl Malone 2- Shaquille O'Neal 3- Tim Duncan 4- Alonzo Mourning 5- Jason Kidd 2000 1- Shaquille O'Neal 2- Tim Duncan 3- Kevin Garnett 4- Allen Iverson 5- Jason Kidd 2001 1- Shaquille O'Neal 2- Allen Iverson 3- Tim Duncan 4- Kevin Garnett 5- Kobe Bryant 2002 1- Shaquille O'Neal 2- Tim Duncan 3- Kobe Bryant 4- Kevin Garnett 5- Tracy McGrady 2003 1- Tim Duncan 2- Shaquille O'Neal/Kobe Bryant 3- Kevin Garnett 4- Kobe Bryant 5- Tracy McGrady/Jason Kidd 2004 1- Kevin Garnett 2- Tim Duncan 3- Shaquille O'Neal/Kobe Bryant? 4- Kobe Bryant 5- Tracy McGrady
I'll start from the 1997 season: 1997: 1.) Karl Malone 2.) Michael Jordan 3.) Shaquille O'Neal 4.) Alonzo Mourning 5.) Gary Payton 1998: 1.) Karl Malone 2.) Michael Jordan 3.) Reggie Miller 4.) John Stockton 5.) Scottie Pippen 1999: 1.) Karl Malone 2.) Shaquille O'Neal 3.) Tim Duncan 4.) Jason Kidd 5.) Chris Webber 2000: 1.) Shaquille O'Neal 2.) Tim Duncan 3.) Kobe Bryant 4.) Allen Iverson 5.) Jason Kidd 2001: 1.) Shaquille O'Neal 2.) Allen Iverson 3.) Kobe Bryant 4.) Tim Duncan 5.) Tracy McGrady 2002: 1.) Tim Duncan 2.) Jason Kidd 3.) Shaquille O'Neal 4.) Tracy McGrady 5.) Kevin Garnett 2003: 1.) Tim Duncan 2.) Kobe Bryant 3.) Shaquille O'Neal 4.) Tracy McGrady 5.) Jason Kidd 2004: 1.) Kevin Garnett 2.) Tim Duncan 3.) Kobe Bryant 4. ) Shaquille O'Neal 5.) Jason Kidd
1997: 1. Michael Jordan 2. Karl Malone 3.) Shaquille O'Neal 4.) Alonzo Mourning 5.) Gary Payton 1998: 1.) Karl Malone 2.) Michael Jordan 3.) Shaquille O'Neal 4.) John Stockton 5.) Scottie Pippen 1999: 1. Shaquille O'Neal 2. Karl Malone 3.) Tim Duncan 4.) Jason Kidd 5.) Chris Webber 2000: 1.) Shaquille O'Neal 2.) Tim Duncan 3.) Allen Iverson 4.) Jason Kidd 5.) Gary Payton 2001: 1.) Tim Duncan 2.) Shaquille O'Neal 3.) Jason Kidd 4.) Kobe Bryant 5.) Tracy McGrady 2002: 1.) Tim Duncan 2.) Kevin Garnett 3.) Shaquille O'Neal 4.) Kevin Garnett 5.) Vince Carter 2003: 1.) Kobe Bryant 2.) Tim Duncan 3.) Kevin Garnett 4.) Tracy McGrady 5.) Shaquille O'Neal 2004: 1.) Kevin Garnett 2.) Tim Duncan 3.) Kobe Bryant 4. ) Jason Kidd 5.) Peja Stojakovic
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">2001: 1.) Tim Duncan 2.) Shaquille O'Neal 3.) Jason Kidd 4.) Kobe Bryant 5.) Tracy McGrady</div> How can you not have Allen Iverson on that list during his MVP season? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">2002: 1.) Tim Duncan 2.) Kevin Garnett 3.) Shaquille O'Neal 4.) Kevin Garnett 5.) Vince Carter</div> Vince Carter? He missed over 20 games, and correct me if I'm wrong but the Raptors also failed to make the Playoff's the year I believe. And even so, I don't think he was among the Top 5 in 2002, if anything you can make an argument for him being a Top 5 player in 2001. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">2004: 1.) Kevin Garnett 2.) Tim Duncan 3.) Kobe Bryant 4. ) Jason Kidd 5.) Peja Stojakovic</div> Jermaine O'Neal finished 3rd in the MVP voting last year, but yet Peja Stojakovic is on the list? I believe Peja was easily a Top 10 player last season but Top 5 is a little farfetched. If Jermaine O'Neal can't make the Top 5 list then Peja can't.
How Do U Put Tmac And Kobe Over Vince In The 01 Season Vince's Stats Were Better Than Both Of Em Thats When Everyone Though Vince Was Gunna B Like The Best
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Avery:</div><div class="quote_post"> Vince Carter? He missed over 20 games, and correct me if I'm wrong but the Raptors also failed to make the Playoff's the year I believe. And even so, I don't think he was among the Top 5 in 2002, if anything you can make an argument for him being a Top 5 player in 2001.</div> The Raps actually did make the playoffs that year, but Vince didn't play in the playoffs. He actually had a pretty good season before coming down with injuries. But I agree, he definitly wasn't a top 5 player in that year. For 2001 however, I would put him 4th, behind Shaq, AI and Duncan
For the people that started from 1997 on: Where were guys like David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Patrick Ewing and Alonzo Mourning? Although they were certainly not young at the time, I'm pretty sure at least one of them was a top 5 player in 97, 98, and even 99.
Seriously though, in 2000 vince was in the top 5 along with iverson, shaq, duncan and garnett. anyone remember the incredible play off performances? and chris webber was defiantely in the top 5 in 2001, he was considered a top contender for mvp.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">How can you not have Allen Iverson on that list during his MVP season? -Vince Carter? He missed over 20 games, and correct me if I'm wrong but the Raptors also failed to make the Playoff's the year I believe. And even so, I don't think he was among the Top 5 in 2002, if anything you can make an argument for him being a Top 5 player in 2001. -Jermaine O'Neal finished 3rd in the MVP voting last year, but yet Peja Stojakovic is on the list? I believe Peja was easily a Top 10 player last season but Top 5 is a little farfetched. If Jermaine O'Neal can't make the Top 5 list then Peja can't.</div> ah i knew i forgot AI in that season and as for the others, i accidently put them 1 year ahead so thats my bad.
i personally think this thread is pretty pointless because everybody's still gonna judge the players by how their impression of them now ffor most of it. plus wats the point of doing 2002-2004, everybody noes its the same 5 players.i think it shud be every 5 years instead off every year
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">i personally think this thread is pretty pointless because everybody's still gonna judge the players by how their impression of them now ffor most of it. </div> Actually we judge them by their overall performance and success for a certain season. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> plus wats the point of doing 2002-2004, everybody noes its the same 5 players. </div> Don't be ignorant. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> i think it shud be every 5 years instead off every year</div> Fine. 1999-2004: 1) Shaq 2) Duncan 3) Kobe 4) Garnett 5) Kidd 1998-1993: 1) Jordan 2) Hakeem 3) Shaq 4) Pippen 5) Barkley 1992-1987: 1) Jordan 2) Isiah 3) Magic 4) Dominique 5) Clyde 1986-1981: 1) Magic 2) Bird 3) Michael Ray Richardson 4) Moses 5) King
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">3) Michael Ray Richardson </div> He wasn't top 5 within those years, probably in 1 or 2 of them but in some he barely averaged past 15 ppg. I still remember when peeps would say that he would have ended up better than Magic.
1990 Magic Isiah Thomas Patrick Ewing MJ Karl Malone 1991 MJ Magic Charles Barkley Karl Malone David Robinson 1992 MJ Clyde Drexler Karl Malone Chris Mullin(all time best warrior) Scottie Pippen 1993 Charles BArkley MJ Hakeem Patrick Ewing Karl Malone 1994 Hakeem OLajuwon Patrick Ewing Scottie Pippen Karl Malone Latrell Sprewell(great year by far his best) 1995 David Robinson Hakeem Shaq Karl Malone Penny Hardaway 1996 MJ Gary Payton Karl Malone Scottie Pippen Grant Hill 1997 Karl Malone MJ Grant Hill Tim Hardaway? Gary Payton 1998 MJ Karl Malone Shaq Gary Payton Tim Duncan 1999 Karl Malone Tim Duncan Alonzo Mourning Shaq Patrick Ewing 2000 Shaq Tim Duncan Gary Payton Alonzo Mourning Allen Iverson 2001 Allen Iverson Shaq Vince CArter( changed I was overrating Kobe here by actually looking it up.) Jason Kidd Chris Webber 2002 Tim Duncan Shaq Kobe Kidd T-Mac 2003 Tim Duncan Shaq Kobe Garnett Kidd 2004 Kevin Garnett Tim Duncan Shaq Kobe Tracy McGrady its not perfect but its what I think from the 90's til now
Ace2k2, i fully agree with u on ur post, only taht during the 2001 season, vince should be on kobe's place.
1997-1998 (champ: Bulls) 1) Michael Jordan: MVP 2) Karl Malone 3) Shaquille O'Neal 4) Grant Hill 5) Gary Payton 1998-1999 (lockout, champ: Spurs) 1) Karl Malone: MVP 2) Shaquille O'Neal 3) Alonzo Mourning 4) Tim Duncan 5) Kevin Garnett 1999-2000 (champ: Lakers) 1) Shaquille O'Neal: MVP 2) Grant Hill 3) Vince Carter 4) Kevin Garnett 5) Chris Webber 2000-2001 (champ: Lakers) 1) Allen Iverson: MVP 2) Shaquille O'Neal 3) Vince Carter 4) Kevin Garnett 5) Tim Duncan 2001-2002 (champ: Lakers) 1) Tim Duncan: MVP 2) Kobe Bryant 3) Kevin Garnett 4) Tracy McGrady 5) Shaquille O'Neal 2002-2003 (champ: Spurs) 1) Tim Duncan: MVP 2) Kobe Bryant 3) Kevin Garnett 4) Tracy McGrady 5) Shaquille O'Neal 2003-2004 (champ: Pistons) 1) Kevin Garnett: MVP 2) Tim Duncan 3) Jermaine O'Neal 4) Kobe Bryant 5) Tracy McGrady 2004-2005 (this year, so far...) 1) Kevin Garnett 2) Dirk Nowitzki 3) Tim Duncan 4) LeBron James 5) Amare Stoudemire
1997: 1.) Michael Jordan 2.) Karl Malone 3.) Shaquille O'Neal 4.) Alonzo Mourning 5.) Gary Payton 1998: 1.) Karl Malone 2.) Michael Jordan 3.) Shaquille O'Neal 4.) John Stockton 5.) Scottie Pippen 1999: 1.) Shaquille O'Neal 2.) Karl Malone 3.) Tim Duncan 4.) Jason Kidd 5.) Chris Webber 2000: 1.) Shaquille O'Neal 2.) Tim Duncan 3.) Allen Iverson 4.) Jason Kidd 5.) Gary Payton 2001: 1.) Tim Duncan 2.) Shaquille O'Neal 3.) Jason Kidd 4.) Kobe Bryant 5.) Tracy McGrady 2002: 1.) Tim Duncan 2.) Kevin Garnett 3.) Shaquille O'Neal 4.) Kevin Garnett 5.) Vince Carter 2003: 1.) Tim Duncan 2.) Kobe Bryant 3.) Kevin Garnett 4.) Tracy McGrady 5.) Shaquille O'Neal 2004: 1.) Kevin Garnett 2.) Kobe Bryant 3.) Tim Duncan 4.) Jermaine O'neal 5.) Shaquille O'neal 2005 (So far through the season): 1.) Kobe Bryant 2.) Kevin Garnett 3.) Tim Duncan 4.) Dirk Nowinski 5.) Dwayne Wade
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting thedude9990:</div><div class="quote_post">How Do U Put Tmac And Kobe Over Vince In The 01 Season Vince's Stats Were Better Than Both Of Em Thats When Everyone Though Vince Was Gunna B Like The Best</div> What does stats have to do with being the best?