Top Ten Worst Signings of old CBA (CNNSI)

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  1. MagicForEver123

    MagicForEver123 JBB Banned Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">No. 1: The Orlando Magic engineer a sign-and-trade deal in 2000 for Grant Hill and his seven-year, $93-million contract.

    This was unfortunate on so many levels. This deal probably cost Magic GM John Gabriel and coach Doc Rivers their respective gigs, cost Orlando the services of three-time All-Star Ben Wallace and cost us the chance to see two all-world talents such as Hill and Tracy McGrady on the same court at the same time. Hill, possibly the finest talent this league had to offer during the '99-00 season, has averaged only 30 games a season with the Magic since the trade.</div>

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    I couldn't believe my eyes. I know it was a bad signing but only because of his injury. Hill was worth this kind of money at that time unlike all the other players on that list, how can Allan Houston not be No 1 (he's 2)?.

    On another list, that from RealGM, they don't even have Hill on their top ten list but unlike with this list, they have the last 10 years and could therefore include Juwan Howards 7 years 105 million deal.

    RealGM: The Worst Free-Agent Signings Of The Last Ten Years
     
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    playmaker15 JBB Droppin Dimes

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    The heats trade for Grant and Jones wasn't that bad, they still made the playoff's twice with them, and Mash is always injured. PJ Brown doesn't do much either. Grant still gets around 8 and 8 a night and jones will score 15 a night and can play good d so that kinda went in the heat's favor.
     
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    how can you say pj doesn't do much? ever watch him play? grant gets 8 and 8? pj gets 9 and 9 every night for a much smaller salary. the most consistant garbage man out there. doesn't do much? really? come on.
     
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    playmaker15 JBB Droppin Dimes

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    Miami still got the better end of the deal.
     
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    Harsh, but fair.

    Every GM would have done the same thing, but the list is done with the benefit of hindsight, and regardless of how good Hill was, the deal stuffed up the franchise in a lot of ways.
     
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    Huh? Number 1, Hill siging was good plus Ben Wallace wasnt an All-Star when he played here. He got good playing under Larry Brown. Alan Houstan should be #1 he can play but not for that much money.
     
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    playmaker15 JBB Droppin Dimes

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    Hill hasn't played a full seaon with them yet. He hasn't gotten to play because of injury.
     
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    You could tell Ben Wallace was going to achieve great things when he was with us. Detroit could tell, too, otherwise they wouldn't have traded Grant Hill for him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chuck:</div><div class="quote_post">You could tell Ben Wallace was going to achieve great things when he was with us. Detroit could tell, too, otherwise they wouldn't have traded Grant Hill for him.</div>

    You're totally wrong here. It was a sign and trade deal and as far as I know we had the choice which players we could include in this trade, there was the option between Wallace and another I can't remember anymore (I think it was Amaechi) but our coach prefered at that time Amaechi. Wallace was already a good defensive player (8 rebounds, 1.7 blocks and .9 steals in 24 minutes per game) but obviously he thought we could do better with Amachi.
     
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    GatorsowntheNCAA Omaha Bound 2010!

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Coranor:</div><div class="quote_post">You're totally wrong here. It was a sign and trade deal and as far as I know we had the choice which players we could include in this trade, there was the option between Wallace and another I can't remember anymore (I think it was Amaechi) but our coach prefered at that time Amaechi. Wallace was already a good defensive player (8 rebounds, 1.7 blocks and .9 steals in 24 minutes per game) but obviously he thought we could do better with Amachi.</div>

    It was actually between Bo Outlaw or Ben Wallace. Bo had served a long time in Orlando, so we were going to pull the loyalty card out, so we kept him rather than Ben. Basically Detroit just wanted solid role players back in exchange for Hill. The Pistons had no idea that Wallace would have been this good. It was just compensation for Hill. I remember at the time, everyone was saying how badly we ripped them off.
     

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