How about Rasho for Mark Blount? Minnesota has had Rasho in the past and played well in Minni. I don't know much about Blount, but I know the grass always looks greener on the other side, so Blount looks good. How about Rasho + Bargnani + Fred Jones + 2nd rounder for Yao? We need Colangelo to pull this off with his charm! PG: Ford/Calderon SG: Parker/Tucker SF: Mo Pete/Graham PF: Bosh/Garbajosa C: Ming/Humphries
I don't think the Rockets are stupid enough to do that trade. They'd be trading a dominating Center (possible the best in the league) for an average center, a possible scrub, and undersized SG.
I dunno about those, but i think in general we could benefit by thickening up the tallent a little bit 1-8 spots on our rotation. I think we have a bunch of guys with decent potential but none of them are really the ones we want on the floor as starters or reserves playing a large amount of minutes. So i think in general we should try to trade 2 of pj tucker, joey graham, huphries, mo pete (expiring contract, could walk away on us), for one player of who would be a better tallent. It would give scatter brain Mitchell less to think about as we'd have only 9 -10 guys who ever really should see the floor and we'd have a higher quality guy at our disposal. I could simply be over-rating those guys as being something slightly better than 11-12 men on the team .. but I think it's a decent idea. With the players we have right now there is no way we'll have enough minutes to serve all the guys who play the 2-3 spot.
I absolutely hate Rasho's contract, but the dude's being overlooked by a lot people right now. Outside of Bosh, he's the only player pulling down rebounds right now and him and Humphries are the only people who guard people properly in the post. Seeing as we haven't really ran as much as Mitchell predicted, I don't know why he's not getting more minutes. I honestly don't like the idea of trading anybody while Sam Mitchell is our coach. The values are all messed up and Colangelo would probably get ripped off on some potential players that are completely misused under our current coach (Joey Graham, Garbajosa, Peterson, etc.).
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I absolutely hate Rasho's contract, but the dude's being overlooked by a lot people right now. Outside of Bosh, he's the only player pulling down rebounds right now and him and Humphries are the only people who guard people properly in the post. Seeing as we haven't really ran as much as Mitchell predicted, I don't know why he's not getting more minutes.</div> He can't play the up and down style. I've seen him screaming to the bench after a foul, huffin and puffin and wanting off the floor....he dosen't have the conditioning
<div class="quote_poster">norespect Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He can't play the up and down style. I've seen him screaming to the bench after a foul, huffin and puffin and wanting off the floor....he dosen't have the conditioning</div> I know. The only problem is we aren't playing the up and down style very well right now. And we're getting abused in the post by players that aren't superstars.
We are making every team look great.....we can't do much well right now. But I think its way to early to start looking at trades....gimme a break, alot of these guys are rookies and more are new to the team......lets not be ridiculous. I think we all had unrealistic expectations, the raptors weren't as good as the preseason demonstrated, and they aren't as bad as they have showed so far during the regular season....just a little patientce please.
<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I absolutely hate Rasho's contract, but the dude's being overlooked by a lot people right now. Outside of Bosh, he's the only player pulling down rebounds right now and him and Humphries are the only people who guard people properly in the post. Seeing as we haven't really ran as much as Mitchell predicted, I don't know why he's not getting more minutes. I honestly don't like the idea of trading anybody while Sam Mitchell is our coach. The values are all messed up and Colangelo would probably get ripped off on some potential players that are completely misused under our current coach (Joey Graham, Garbajosa, Peterson, etc.).</div> Great post Chut! I hate Rasho's contract too, but he's been fantastic on defense believe it or not. Has had a number of blocks and has also altered many shots from the opposition. Offensively because of his lack of speed he gets lost with our up tempo style, but defensively he makes a huge difference and if given more PT will make a bigger impact then some may think for our team defense.
I agree norespect. It's too early to label this team, considering all the new talent. You had to expect there would a lot of ups and downs early on. What we can take away from the first few games though, is that the players will have to win games, despite Sam Mitchell (eg: Bosh bailing out a horrible set play in Philly). Also, considering we aren't the greatest shooting team anymore, we'll have to get used to other teams getting just as many oppurtunities to run as we do.
If Rasho can focus on defense, changing shots, blocking shots, and hitting open layups/dunks then that would be good enough. How about Zydrunas for Rasho + Jones? Would that be good or bad for the Raps or the Cavs?
I think that Rasho's presence on the floor is a direct relation to bosh's rebounding numbers this year...he's easily out best low post defender and weak side help defender. why trade him? why trade bargs? are you calling him a bust? where did you read he was supposed to come into the league and give us quality minutes every night? everyone and thier brother told us that bargs is like a nowitzki...meaning it will be a few years before he's REALLY ready to start and give us great minutes. its 7 games into the season...have patience, it will take time our roster isnt the problem...we dont need a trade right now...we need a decent playbook
Instead of trading Rasho, we should play him more. Right now we have one rebounder on the team for most of the game, and it's Bosh. Jorge is a HORRIBLE rebounding big, he's worse than Bonner, and Bargnani hardly plays and isn't a good rebounder either. The only game I can remember us winning the battle on the glass was yesterday's game, it's embarassing. Also TJ is annoying me, he just turns the ball over WAY too much. Our offense was more efficient last season with Mike James than it is now. Jorge can't shoot the NBA three consistently, he doesn't seem to truly have the range, yet we've made no adjustments to run pick and rolls where he's spotting up for 20 foot jumpers. I just don't understand the coaching right now. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I think that Rasho's presence on the floor is a direct relation to bosh's rebounding numbers this year...he's easily out best low post defender and weak side help defender. why trade him?</div> I keep hearing people say this, and please, no it's not. EX: Rasho vs Warriors, 9 minutes, Bosh, 22 rebounds. vs ATL, Rasho 12 minutes, Bosh 17 rebounds, please tell me what Rasho was doing from the bench to help Bosh rebound? Rasho's presence has nothing to do with Bosh's rebounding. Bosh is also grabbing 4.9 ORPG which is insane and has nothing to do with Rasho. Bosh's rebounding has improved #1 because of him improving, and secondly because he's basically the only actual rebounder on the floor the whole game.
<div class="quote_poster">Premium Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">why trade bargs? are you calling him a bust? where did you read he was supposed to come into the league and give us quality minutes every night? everyone and thier brother told us that bargs is like a nowitzki...meaning it will be a few years before he's REALLY ready to start and give us great minutes. its 7 games into the season...have patience, it will take time</div> I'm not calling him a bust or anything, but if we could Yao in a trade involving Bargnani I would do it. Players that can score effectively down low are valuable like Shaq, Tim Duncan, and Yao. Dirk is awesome, but I'd take those over him. (well maybe not Shaq cause he is getting older).
the rockets would never trade yao maybe...MAYBE they would if the deal included bosh. without bosh, we couldnt get yao for any combination of players we have.
<div class="quote_poster">SkiptoMyLue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If Rasho can focus on defense, changing shots, blocking shots, and hitting open layups/dunks then that would be good enough. How about Zydrunas for Rasho + Jones? Would that be good or bad for the Raps or the Cavs?</div> <div class="quote_poster">SkiptoMyLue11 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not calling him a bust or anything, but if we could Yao in a trade involving Bargnani I would do it. Players that can score effectively down low are valuable like Shaq, Tim Duncan, and Yao. Dirk is awesome, but I'd take those over him. (well maybe not Shaq cause he is getting older).</div> Skip, I enjoy most of your posts and I can tell you are a fan....but you aren't thinking straight. There is no one on the raptors squad that Houston would trade Yao for, except bosh...and thats a maybe. Why in the world would the Cavs trade a very good center for a couple of scrubs. Big men are hard to come by, and ur not gonna get them cheap...especially good ones.
<div class="quote_poster">norespect Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Skip, I enjoy most of your posts and I can tell you are a fan....but you aren't thinking straight. There is no one on the raptors squad that Houston would trade Yao for, except bosh...and thats a maybe.</div> lol, yea you're right. I'd love to get him though, especially if we didn't have to give up Bosh. <div class="quote_poster">norespect Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why in the world would the Cavs trade a very good center for a couple of scrubs. Big men are hard to come by, and ur not gonna get them cheap...especially good ones.</div> Zydrunas is only averaging 7.6 ppg, and they are only playing him 23 mpg. If he isn't getting played much maybe he is available?
